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Old 06-26-2013, 11:08 PM   #1631
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bottom line is we need these test done on the same car in a controlled enviroment like Injected and we need to do the test soon after the mods are done this way we have a before and after on the same dyno. So, whether it is calibrated properly or not we will see the before and after gain. Like i have been saying all along if putting a turbo on this stock engine will only gain you 30% more hp safely then how can we expect to get that same result on a naturally aspirated engine. If it could be done turbos would be obsolete in my opinion.
30% is doable, that is 48 HP
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Old 06-26-2013, 11:08 PM   #1632
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Dyno numbers are not universally accurate...what one person gets on one dyno will differ greatly from another dyno, even with the same car (and often same type of dyno as well).

It's best to use them as a comparison point. Find what the person ran on that dyno (and not a different one...) while stock, or with a different configuration, and see how much power they gained from what hey added on.
Exactly this. The only numbers worth putting serious thought into are same-car, same-dyno testing. Even then there can be wide swings if the environment is different. What you also have to consider is overall-percentage gains because one car may only baseline at 140HP OEM while another may baseline at 150HP. If each car gains 25HP, the lower baseline has a higher percentage increase.

This is exactly why people cannot try to assume a certain 'drivetrain loss' percentage. If you assume a 10-15% drivetrain loss then you are saying that by adding a CAI you lose (or gain, depending on math) that same 10-15% even though a CAI has nothing to do with you're drivetrain.

Ultimately, use numbers as an idea and for comparison, but take them with a grain of salt.
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30% is doable, that is 48 HP
well I am ready and want to do it ... Between all of us if it is achievable then i know we will hit it
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why dont we just bypass all of this and get injected or someone to build us a turbo and be done with it. just a thought is anyone working on one?
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well I am ready and want to do it ... Between all of us if it is achievable then i know we will hit it
once injected releases their header and throttlebody and intake and exhaust buy those parts, go past 200HP, the debate today was about 200 on just exhaust, intake and tune. header,TB, potentially intake manifold, E85 tune, could provide huge gains. Turbo for 5 speeds would be straightforward, not for DCT.
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once injected releases their header and throttlebody and intake and exhaust buy those parts, go past 200HP, the debate today was about 200 on just exhaust, intake and tune. header,TB, potentially intake manifold, E85 tune, could provide huge gains. Turbo for 5 speeds would be straightforward, not for DCT.
oh ok got it I have the dct automatic... I will stand by and save my money up i bet this will be a bit pricey but I have to have these mods from them :)
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oh ok got it I have the dct automatic... I will stand by and save my money up i bet this will be a bit pricey but I have to have these mods from them :)
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credit cards help with the not having money now part
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yes it would, but have no credit cards, or credit card debt..LOL
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I have no CC debt, but rewards points are worth buying everything on credit card.
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