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Old 03-30-2013, 11:52 AM   #1
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Arrow No low beams or fog lights?

Ok got a 2002 ford focus zx3 a few days ago. The low beams and fog lights don't work. All other lights work including the high beams. The light turns on, on the round switch, on the dash for the fog lights when I turn them on, but no fogs. All the other running lights turn on when I turn on the head lights but no low beams. The high beams work perfect.
What I have done:
1. Changed a bulb to see if that was the problem. It wasn't.
2. switched the relays for the high and low beams. Also didn't change anything.

3. Checked the fuse's in under the hood they both look fine.
4. Checked the fuse under the dash. Itís also fine.
From doing searches on here and reading peoples problems and fix's, I have come down to the switch on the column (blinker switch), or the switch on the dash (round light selector switch) being the culprit.
Does that sound about right? Any advice? Anything I should know about changing out either switch?


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Old 03-30-2013, 11:55 AM   #2
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Have u tried the multifunction switch? If the highbeams are stuck on the fog lights wont work
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Old 03-30-2013, 12:01 PM   #3
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No i have not replaced or tested any switch's. The high beams turn on and off, when they are off the lows should be on but they are not. I'm thinking it is the turn signal switch (multifunction switch?) how ever I am not sure. the person who owned this car is dead so I can't ask them how this started to happen so I don't have any other symptom info. :(

Is changing out the switch basicly the same as this video of a ranger?

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Old 03-30-2013, 12:37 PM   #4
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No i have not replaced or tested any switch's. The high beams turn on and off, when they are off the lows should be on but they are not. I'm thinking it is the turn signal switch (multifunction switch?) how ever I am not sure. the person who owned this car is dead so I can't ask them how this started to happen so I don't have any other symptom info. :(
That sounds like the dimmer switch is defective. From everything I've read about (and I read A LOT) in the past 6 months: It is definitely the dimmer switch ("steering column switch").

To be 100% positive it is not the relay: Listen for the click from the relay actuating from high-beam to low-beam.
To be 100% positive it is not a fuse (one of three?): Use a multi-meter and either check the voltage (on the vehicle) or resistance (off the vehicle with the ohms).

As far as the fog lights go: That would be the combination/multi-functional switch ("circular one").

Unless there is an internal wiring issue, causing an open circuit somewhere.
I'd personally lean towards the combination/multi-functional switch first (seeing as how the dimmer switch is quite possibly worn out already).

You can get a new dimmer switch for like $25 USD. BRAND new! It is negligible financially, even for me (pretty cheap).
If you're unsure of how to change one, I made this instructional video not too long ago when I changed mine out (my high-beams / low-beams wouldn't stay on; The "clicking" part broke; I had to HOLD it to keep the low-beams on).

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ERROR: If you can see this, then YouTube is down or you don't have Flash installed.


I am assuming the 2001 / 2002 models do not differ in regards to changing out the dimmer switch.
My combination/multi-functional switch is fine, so! I never had to change that. Sorry I can't be of much help. They run in the ~$100 USD (new) range though.


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Is changing out the switch basicly the same as this video of a ranger?

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxE9ukmE8B4[YOUTUBE]
After having had reviewed the video: I must conclude the answer as being NO! It is not anywhere near that complex!
Ford Focus' are EXTREMELY simple when it comes to changing out the headlamp assembly, headlamp bulbs, dimmer switch, fuses, relays, etc.

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Old 03-30-2013, 01:31 PM   #5
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Sweet, thats super easy. I was wondering because I didn't see any holes for the torx bolts. I was worried it was like the one on my toyota where you have to pull the whole steering wheel, remove all the steering colum covers and then undo several more bolts. lol I'm going to go ahead and assume it is this, because I changed out or swapped around the fuse's and they all where fine.
One last thing is the relays are in the engine compartment fuse box right?
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Sweet, thats super easy. I was wondering because I didn't see any holes for the torx bolts. I was worried it was like the one on my toyota where you have to pull the whole steering wheel, remove all the steering colum covers and then undo several more bolts. lol I'm going to go ahead and assume it is this, because I changed out or swapped around the fuse's and they all where fine.
One last thing is the relays are in the engine compartment fuse box right?
Yes! The relays are (these little buggers) under the hood, in the power box.
I believe they are respectively: R5 (high), R6 (low), R12 (DTR lamps, if applicable), R13 (fog lamps), R14 (Stop lamp inhibit relay, if applicable).
This is for a 2001 Ford Focus ZX3 however. I am sure it'll be in the power-box on the white paper under the lid.

Those should all be 15amp relays if I'm not mistaken. I know AutoZone sells them under different names.
But at the end of the day: They are identical hardware. I just buy "dimmer" relays (12v, 5-pin, 15amp).
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Old 03-31-2013, 10:06 AM   #7
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Ok changed out the turn signal switch last night and both the low beams and fog lights work now.
Took about 3 minutes and I got the oem part at autozone. 24$
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Thanks for the update!

Always helps to see what the final resolution was, MUCH better than wondering if it got fixed. This helps others with similar issues.

Glad your "new" car is working right now!
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Old 03-31-2013, 11:21 AM   #9
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yeah I always try to finish the post's I start so that people can use them for referance later. I am going to pull apart the one that is broken and see if I can fix it. I will post results of that as well.
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My problem is just the opposite, my HIGHS don't work, but fogs and lows do. I have replaced fuses, relays, bulbs, tried a new turn signal switch and NOTHING has changed. Could the wiring be bad?
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