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Old 04-06-2013, 03:41 PM   #1
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Electrical problem?!

Alright, so I have a 2002 focus zx3 (Zetec with MTX-75 manual transmission.) and The previous owner had linked the stereo into the fuse box (driver's kick panel) and it was an empty fuse spot, Fuse 52. Anyway,one of the wires slipped out of one slot, and stuck to the metal bracket that the fuse box is hooked too, which runs around under the dash to who knows where. After that I figured I blew the inline fuse to the radio, so I checked it and still good. Now for the problem..

Power windows switches do not illuminate, or work, along with the sunroof, front/rear wipers, and brake lights. possibly cruise control as well, but not sure. here's the catch, I pulled the whole fuse box out of the kick panel, checking every fuse and relay in there, nothing is bad. what could be the problem?!
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Old 04-06-2013, 05:33 PM   #2
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bumpp.... no power feed coming into the brake light switch, so all the switches are NOT bad.. and I have not seen a CTM (Central Timer Module) on the back of the fuse box..
would my fuse/relay box be bad?

Are there any electrical guru's on here?? I'm also stuck 2 hours from college where i'm studying automotive electrical right now... I really do not wanna drive with my window down, and no brake lights all the way home.

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No one...? ...

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Old 04-06-2013, 08:30 PM   #4
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Electrical problems are hard to diagnose over the internet, especially from someone else's hack job. The GEM in the passenger side kick panel controls most or all of those functions, maybe it got fried? Did anything else stop working? like hazards, hatch release....
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Electrical problems are hard to diagnose over the internet, especially from someone else's hack job. The GEM in the passenger side kick panel controls most or all of those functions, maybe it got fried? Did anything else stop working? like hazards, hatch release....
Now when you say the GEM in the passenger side kick panel, are you talking about the area where the fuel pump shut off is? or on the driver side? and I took out the whole fuse box and checked each, took it all apart to see if anything inside of that was fried, everything seemed fine..
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Moved to "General Technical Chat" as you might get better help there. Also when you make a post, be patient and wait for someone to respond to it before bumping it up again.
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Drop the glove box by squeezing the sides and you'll see the GEM, it's a black box with five harnesses on it. (I meant to say above the passenger kick panel to be correct) It controls almost everything non-engine related, I don't know of a way to test it besides swapping it out.
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thanks!

that ones my bad... got a touch impatient as I have been working on this for 2 days straight... well, my wire chasin' and forum searchin' paid off.. I actually got something from looking through these forums.

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Silly question- did you take them out to test them?
under the hood, the 40A maxi fuse was blown, but I didnt think of pulling them out because I figured it would be shorted or blown circuit in the fuse panel behind the passenger compartment kick panel (due to where the short occurred.. I just tested continuity not thinking that under the hood would do anything(farther away from the spot.)

As for the bumping, I guess being kinda new to this I got a tad overexcited
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I wasn't sure if you checked ALL of the fuses, but good work. Also thanks for the follow up on the fix it might help someone else later.
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yeah, I hope it does! vehicles seem to be getting more and more difficult to work with. thanks for trying to help the best you could, appreciate that sir.
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