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Old 04-04-2013, 10:37 AM   #71
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So far I have found the following 5+ different headlights on ebay. Is it the whole headlight or just a part? Also are those listed as pairs or singles? I cant tell. I'm a bit confused about this. Also I'm prefer blue light because I'm going for a blue theme. Here are the links:
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6: Stock Black I know this one is a single whole headlight. Only $300 with shipping!

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As has already been mentioned. 1-5 are pairs. You're getting the entire headlight housing, probably a hi-beam bulb, and necessary circuitry. Low-beam is buyer's responsibility as are the (presumably) the parking light and blinker.

As for #6 you're getting the headlight housing and one side only. That is all.

I'm not sure where your "blue" comment is coming from nor aimed at.
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Old 04-04-2013, 10:47 AM   #72
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As has already been mentioned. 1-5 are pairs. You're getting the entire headlight housing, probably a hi-beam bulb, and necessary circuitry. Low-beam is buyer's responsibility as are the (presumably) the parking light and blinker.

As for #6 you're getting the headlight housing and one side only. That is all.

I'm not sure where your "blue" comment is coming from nor aimed at.
Oh can the stock bulbs be used or do others have to be bought? Well Some of the lights seem bluer than others, like the LEDS seem blue-ish.
What i'm talking about "blue theme" is I wanna get blue bulbs or HID's but i'm not sure how to make it all work . maybe some blue vinyl. I'm a noob.
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Old 04-04-2013, 10:55 AM   #73
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Oh can the stock bulbs be used or do others have to be bought? Well Some of the lights seem bluer than others, like the LEDS seem blue-ish.
What i'm talking about "blue theme" is I wanna get blue bulbs or HID's but i'm not sure how to make it all work . maybe some blue vinyl. I'm a noob.
OK.

Yes, the stock bulbs can be used on all of the headlights you linked. However, if you're looking for a "bluer" bulb color you would need to go with HID lights. Specifically in the 6000k range. Those would require you to purchase ballasts and bulbs (for the low beams).

The LEDs are pure white, with no blue in them. All of the LEDs you see in the pictures are built in and cannot be swapped.

The whole "blue theme" is probably not, in actuality, what you want. It may seem cool, but by tinting your headlights your diminishing the amount of light that can be seen through it. Blue lights do not necessarily offer any benefits outside of someone simply liking the color.

Anyway, your "blue theme" can be achieved with any of the lights you have linked...aside from swapping the actual LEDs.
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Old 04-04-2013, 10:59 AM   #74
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OK.

Yes, the stock bulbs can be used on all of the headlights you linked. However, if you're looking for a "bluer" bulb color you would need to go with HID lights. Specifically in the 6000k range. Those would require you to purchase ballasts and bulbs (for the low beams).

The LEDs are pure white, with no blue in them. All of the LEDs you see in the pictures are built in and cannot be swapped.

The whole "blue theme" is probably not, in actuality, what you want. It may seem cool, but by tinting your headlights your diminishing the amount of light that can be seen through it. Blue lights do not necessarily offer any benefits outside of someone simply liking the color.

Anyway, your "blue theme" can be achieved with any of the lights you have linked...aside from swapping the actual LEDs.
I'm not sure what ballasts are, but would it be expensive? And would I have to take apart the headlight? I don't wanna get into the whole baking headlights thing.

I understand tinting headlights reduces visible light. However if paired with HID it would be okay because HID are already at least 2x brighter than normal. But you're right all it does it make the lens look blue, it doesn't even add much color to the light. Apparantley, for HID 8k is bluer and not quite as bright as 6k.

But on that note... what is involved in making those headlights HID? taking it apart? Can't I just buy a normal blue bulb that is not HID?

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I'm not sure what ballasts are, but would it be expensive? And would I have to take apart the headlight? I don't wanna get into the whole baking headlights thing.

I understand tinting headlights reduces visible light. However if paired with HID it would be okay because HID are already at least 2x brighter than normal. But you're right all it does it make the lens look blue, it doesn't even add much color to the light. Apparantley, for HID 8k is bluer and not quite as bright as 6k.

But on that note... what is involved in making those headlights HID? taking it apart? Can't I just buy a normal blue bulb that is not HID?

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Ballasts are HIDs. It is what fires them and allows them to burn. You DO NOT need to bake your headlights to use ballasts. A good set of warrantied ballasts run about $150.

I'm not saying it's OK or not OK, but simply that I would not tint my headlights. You do as you please.



If you go that high, again, you're going to start loosing visibility and simply choosing form over function. Again, your choice.

No. I don't think you can legally buy a blue bulb w/o it being an HID. I could be wrong though. Making a headlight HID is nothing more than buying a ballast and light (they usually come as a unit).

I would not suggest running HID in stock housing, as HIDs are made to work in conjunction WITH projectors.
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i'm still confused. So if I buy aftermarket headlights... I have to replace a bunch of stuff in them to make them HID? Could you or anyone else explain it in a step by step process? Otherwise i'm too confused. For example 1: buy lights, 2: do this, 3: do that.

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i'm still confused. So if I buy aftermarket headlights... I have to replace a bunch of stuff in them to make them HID? Could you or anyone else explain it in a step by step process? Otherwise i'm too confused. For example 1: buy lights, 2: do this, 3: do that.

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I think jdubhack is saying you have some options:

1. Stock headlight --> Halogen Bulb
2. Aftermarket Headlight (with/without projectors) --> Halogen Bulb
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3. Aftermarket Headlight (with projectors)-->Ballasts-->HID bulbs

Basically, we just don't recommend HIDs in the non-projector housings, though people do it all the time.
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I'm not sure what ballasts are, but would it be expensive? And would I have to take apart the headlight? I don't wanna get into the whole baking headlights thing.

I understand tinting headlights reduces visible light. However if paired with HID it would be okay because HID are already at least 2x brighter than normal. But you're right all it does it make the lens look blue, it doesn't even add much color to the light. Apparantley, for HID 8k is bluer and not quite as bright as 6k
Don't immediately assume that. As the illumination gets above the 6k mark it gets blue and softer. The headlights looks like they are throwing out a lot of bright like but it looks dim at night and almost not present when its raining.
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I'm not sure what ballasts are, but would it be expensive? And would I have to take apart the headlight? I don't wanna get into the whole baking headlights thing.
HID kits from many online sources can be had for less than $60 for a set (low or high beams). You do not have to take the lights "apart" at all, its basically a "plug and play" affair just like replacing a bulb, if you're not sure, get a friend to help

I understand tinting headlights reduces visible light. However if paired with HID it would be okay because HID are already at least 2x brighter than normal. But you're right all it does it make the lens look blue, it doesn't even add much color to the light. Apparantley, for HID 8k is bluer and not quite as bright as 6k.
Sorta, HID unto itself is much brighter and more effecient, however, 4300k is the OEM HID color used since it is closest to pure white, once you pass 5000k, you starting getting more blue output and the "usable" light output diminishes SIGNIFICANTLY, google is your friend. Check out danielsternlighting.com for example

But on that note... what is involved in making those headlights HID? taking it apart? Can't I just buy a normal blue bulb that is not HID?
Yes, you can certainly buy a "blue" tinted halogen bulb and plug it in, light output will be absolutely horrible, but, it would look blue (not to mention illegal on public roads). See above for HID installation

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