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Old 03-22-2013, 01:43 PM   #1
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Escape 2.0L EcoBoost owners welcome?

This site has helped me keep my 03 SPI Focus running strong (156K+ miles and I am keeping it). I have a 2013 Ford Escape with 2.0L EcoBoost engine and hope I can join this forum. Are the engines the same? Are the transmissions the same?

The dealership is providing a 1st oil change at 1,000 miles, and free changes every 5,000 for the 1st 2 years. Afterwards I will be doing all the maintenance.

Should I insist on full-synthetic oil from the Dealership, even if it involves some out-of-pocket $ ? Any other advice would be welcome.

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Old 03-22-2013, 02:02 PM   #2
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The engine is essentially the same but I would guess both vehicles are new enough no one has dug into the differences yet. Transmission in certainly different. The ST is 6 speed manual only and the escape is automatic only.
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To elaborate on what BLrich1 said, the basic engine is based on the same block, however the state of tune and various mechanical components are different based on the specific application.

The ST uses a more aggressive programming to get the 12 extra horsepower over the Escape rated at 240 hp and a similar 270 ft-lb of torque. This leads to a difference in drivability, furthermore the Escape is only available with a conventional 6F35 automatic transmission where as the ST is only available with an MMT6 6 speed manual.

Short of anyone doing some further digging as its too new the differences beyond this are not obvious.
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I wonder if the bottom end is semi forged like the ST is... Hmm.
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I would imagine. The boost level I have seen online is at the 17 psi mark. I have not see a gauge to confirm that though.
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I wonder if the bottom end is semi forged like the ST is... Hmm.
Considering that both engines are rated at 270 ft/lbs of torque, it would be safe to assume that the engines are virtually identical.

The difference in HP can be attributed to the PCM calibration and possibly better breathing (intake and/or exhaust and/or cam profiles).
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+1 with Kabigon & BLRich1, most likely just a tune and minor intake/exhaust tweaks.

Thats part of why the ST was a feasible business decision, using the same engine from other models with little modification. Mazda did the same with the MS3, IF we get a Focus RS, it'll use the 2.3L Ecoboost developed for the Mustang. High Performance models of a standard car rarely sell enough to justify their own R&D for a markedly different engine.

Part of Ford's strategy for the Ecoboost line is commonality between models, you can get a 1.6L Ecoboost engine in a Fiesta ST, a Fusion, and an Escape. The 2.0L Ecoboost goes in the Focus ST, your Escape, and the Explorer. I wouldn't be surprised to see the 2.0L Ecoboost Explorer replaced with the 2.3L Ecoboost from the Euro-stang when it comes out.

That said, I would NOT suggest thinking about a Focus ST tune on an Escape! Even if engines are identical, they are tuned for specific applications and have different transmissions.

Congrats on the new Escape! If they offered it in a 6 speed manual I'd be considering it as a tow vehicle.
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Thanks for the welcome.

So the 2.0 L Eco boost engine is the same. In that case, does it use a timing belt or timing chain? Is it an interference engine?

Always bought Ford and always did my own basic maintenance. Thanks for the welcome!
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So the 2.0 L Eco boost engine is the same. In that case, does it use a timing belt or timing chain? Is it an interference engine?

Always bought Ford and always did my own basic maintenance. Thanks for the welcome!
The regular duratec ti-vct engine that the EcoBoost is based on uses a timing chain, afaik so does the EcoBoost 2.0 L. Only the 1.6 L and 1.0 L EcoBoost engines use a timing belt. The 1.0 L's belt being soaked in oil to approximate the longevity of a chain.
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+1 with Kabigon & BLRich1, most likely just a tune and minor intake/exhaust tweaks.

Thats part of why the ST was a feasible business decision, using the same engine from other models with little modification. Mazda did the same with the MS3, IF we get a Focus RS, it'll use the 2.3L Ecoboost developed for the Mustang. High Performance models of a standard car rarely sell enough to justify their own R&D for a markedly different engine.

Part of Ford's strategy for the Ecoboost line is commonality between models, you can get a 1.6L Ecoboost engine in a Fiesta ST, a Fusion, and an Escape. The 2.0L Ecoboost goes in the Focus ST, your Escape, and the Explorer. I wouldn't be surprised to see the 2.0L Ecoboost Explorer replaced with the 2.3L Ecoboost from the Euro-stang when it comes out.

That said, I would NOT suggest thinking about a Focus ST tune on an Escape! Even if engines are identical, they are tuned for specific applications and have different transmissions.

Congrats on the new Escape! If they offered it in a 6 speed manual I'd be considering it as a tow vehicle.
The escape is towable. No need for any parts to tow (other than the hitch)
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