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Old 03-11-2013, 02:57 PM   #1
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SE vs Ti...is the 'upgraded' suspension worth it?

So my son is getting ready to get his driver's license and I'm toying with the idea of handing off my 2010 SES sedan to him and maybe getting a 2013 SE or Ti for me (I really love my Focus).

After playing around with the 'build-it-yourself" thingy on Ford's website, it seems to me the only major, non-cosmetic difference between the two is the option to get 18" wheels and "optimized sport suspension components" on the Ti.

So is that lone change worth the extra $$$? What sort of components are we talking about? I've read (here) that the 18" tires are pricier and deliver a stiffer yet better handling ride. Seems to me I could accomplish the same thing (albeit over a longer time period) by gradually getting goodies from FSWerks.


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Get an st and you don't have to do any upgrades.
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Get an st and you don't have to do any upgrades.
The ST is a great car but cannot get several things a Titanium can get like parking sensors, backup camera, automatic parking system, all-season tires and automatic transmission. Obviously, for many people these things are fluff and are not necessary.
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Will you also be getting the automatic transmission? Because I like how it is implemented on the Ti much better. I love having control over what gear I'm in. If I were going SE, I'd get the stick.
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Will you also be getting the automatic transmission? Because I like how it is implemented on the Ti much better. I love having control over what gear I'm in. If I were going SE, I'd get the stick.
The 201A package (aka the premium package on the SE) should also have the same select shift feature as the Ti, but it was more broadly available on the 2012 with different option packages and trim levels.

So unless you go for an SE without rear disk brakes they would be implemented exactly the same way.

I like having select shift control over the powershift dct in my 12 SEL.
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AH! So the Ti's auto is different from the SE's?? I did not know that. Yes, I would get an auto.

I would also get an ST, if $$$ were no object and I wouldn't have to pony up for the additional insurance. :D And I don't like the idea of Skynet doing my parking. LOL
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AH! So the Ti's auto is different from the SE's?? I did not know that. Yes, I would get an auto.

I would also get an ST, if $$$ were no object and I wouldn't have to pony up for the additional insurance. :D And I don't like the idea of Skynet doing my parking. LOL
The transmission is the exact same one for all models equipped with the PowerShift Dual clutch transmission.
The base level shifter in the SE lacks the select shift feature. However if you get the 201A package or a Titanium it comes with a select shift mode (S instead of L on the gear shifter), and a toggle switch to allow for manual gear changes.
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If you start adding options to a SE you will surpass the price of a TI.

My wife has a TI and I have an ST the TI has a better ride even with the handling pack get the TI
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My SE 'build' (which does have the 201A pkg) is $1,400 less. And the differences appear to be only the uber radio (which I'm kinda ambivalent about) and the handling package.

Hmmmmm......well, there is no big rush to decide. Thanks for the input!!!
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I toyed around with lesser models before I ordered but decided to get a nicely loaded Ti so that I wouldn't have to bitch about why didn't I get:

* Parking assist with camera

* MFT with NAV


Once you have those options about the only things I did not get was moonroof and 18" wheels and I didn't want either of those.

Too many people buy low then wind up paying 2X-5X trying to add back features they opted out of at time of order.

My Ti HB came out to just under $24K when all was said and done and I've been super happy with it. My last fun car was an Acura Integra GSR and although it was a bit faster with 170HP the 2012 FF Ti is way more fun with features my 1998 GSR could only dream of. The thing is, when you compare the cost of a loaded FF with other makes that have comparable features like parking assist, Blutooth, NAV, etc you're really well into the mid thirty thousands...

Now, I really wish the US version had the option for the adaptive cruise control that will match the speed of the car ahead of you or apply the brakes if someone brake checks you -- man I'd love to have that...


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