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View Poll Results: do you wish you had gotten a stick instead of the DCT?
heck yeah. i hate the DCT 17 37.78%
no way. love the DCT. sticks are for kids 28 62.22%
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Old 02-25-2013, 06:35 AM   #71
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This whole debate about stick vs auto has been entertaining. Funny how we get so caught up in our personal preferences that a little tease about 'sticks are for kids' results in such a staunch defense of what is better when it really is just a matter of preference and doesn't have any bearing on the actual capabilities or level of character of the person or their choices. I can drive stick as well and better than most and enjoy doing so but I still own an auto, does that make me lazy or inferior? Does owning a stick make me more in command of my driving or more involved with my driving environment? No to both. Either method of propulsion will not prevent someone from being distracted from their cell or radio or kids or what have you. Most all cars have systems in them that draw our attention from the road and driving. A clutch or not will not do anything to prevent this. As much as there is a defense of the Stick culture on this site, I think the 'Sticks are for kids' comment is rather funny and not at all intended as a real slight to sticks, just the silliness of our desires to be somehow 'better' in what we perceive to be 'the way it should be done' in what ever we do, be it driving, politics, team affiliations or other. Let's have fun here. Let's rib each other without trying to prove something. Laugh a little. Take sides but don't try to win at all costs. There are only losers when we do this and start fighting over meaningless issues instead of enjoying our cars and the community of Focus owners we came here to share in. ...... Automatics RULE! AHAHAHAHAHA...... LOL!
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I like both. I've owned both, and there are times with either I find myself wishing I had the other. So far, I am happy with my DCT and like the "sport" option. Since they've come this far, why not put in a "fly by wire" clutch pedal and let us select which way we shift with a button, like my 4x4 selector on my SuperDuty? Auto-shift or manual as the mood or situation strikes.
In my career years, I used to get promoted for out of the box ideas like this, now I'm giving them to Ford free of charge!
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Old 02-25-2013, 06:57 AM   #73
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I like both. I've owned both, and there are times with either I find myself wishing I had the other. So far, I am happy with my DCT and like the "sport" option. Since they've come this far, why not put in a "fly by wire" clutch pedal and let us select which way we shift with a button, like my 4x4 selector on my SuperDuty? Auto-shift or manual as the mood or situation strikes.
In my career years, I used to get promoted for out of the box ideas like this, now I'm giving them to Ford free of charge!
Now your talking! I'd bet with the DCT concept, they could design the tranny to have an actual clutch AND have the option to go auto. Then we could decide which we want to do. Auto for highway and stop and go city, and Manual for open road and sport driving! The shifter could be used as a Manual but have an extra position that puts it in auto mode for the times you want to use it! Brilliant!!!!!!!!!.....
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Old 02-25-2013, 09:17 AM   #74
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Ford should've had something better than the dumb thumb button to change gears with and either should've had paddle shifters or a straightforward manu-stick shifter. My mom had a '07 Miata and that was actually a fun shifting 6 speed and never had any silly quirks or hic-ups.
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Old 02-25-2013, 10:16 AM   #75
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I would. I had so many issues with my DCT, Ford couldn't get it right, and the dealer they sent me was worse (Spent over 5 hours waiting to find out not a single thing was done), I'd get the manual. I test drove the manual trans Focus, I can drive the car smoother than the DCT can drive itself.
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Old 02-25-2013, 10:21 AM   #76
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in my fantasy world the stick is available. simple question really.
If it was a simple question, you should have used simple answers in the poll.
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Old 03-03-2013, 11:37 AM   #77
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... Does owning a stick make me more in command of my driving or more involved with my driving environment?
I didn't read the 8 pages, but I can guess what it contains, but if this point has has been raised before, I'm not trying to pile it on.

I think driving stick does force you to pay attention to your environment. Of course, an automatic driver might pay just as much attention, but the same incentives are not present. For example, when approaching a turn, you have to make a decision about gearing down, so you start looking ahead of time: is someone about to cross the street? Is the 'Do not cross' signal flashing indicating an imminent yellow? Hopefully any good driver is planning ahead, no matter the gearbox, but when you get stuck lugging it out in to wrong gear or make a misguided shift back into first, you learn from the consequences inherent to the manual gearbox only.
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Old 03-03-2013, 11:48 AM   #78
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I don't think having a stick makes you pay any more attention, after a few weeks of driving it just becomes second nature and you do it without even thinking about it. I only drive my track car occasionally on the road and I rarely think about what I'm doing with the gears, track driving is slightly different, but even then I typically do it without even thinking.
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Old 03-04-2013, 12:06 PM   #79
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automatics are for kids! Sticks are for men! haha interesting poll
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"As with the majority of modern performance cars, Porsche has dropped the manual transmission option outright; buyers will get a seven-speed dual-clutch gearbox whether they want it or not."

http://www.autoweek.com/article/2013...NEVA/130309935
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