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Old 02-26-2013, 07:49 PM   #51
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I got a bit of news on that 2.0TDCi but I can not share, sorry.
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Old 02-27-2013, 06:34 AM   #52
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Dammit man......! Spit it out! You have no idea how horribly disappointed I have always been in the Transit Connect. Now with the new Transit Connect coming out in Oct, I'd like to get one for the wife, but if gas motors are all they have- I'd rather get a used Mazda5 instead.
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You might be in luck.
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Don't confuse the Transit Connect with the Transit van, the Transit van gets the 3.2L 5 cyl TDCI engine.

Anyway, someone stole your title idea!

2013 Is the Year of the Diesel
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Who me?

Transit Connect:


Transit-E:
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Dude, seriously?

#1 Gassers won't ever make the low end torque compression makes. It's just never going to happen. Never. The only motors with more low end torque are electric. Torque is better for towing and general hauling of ass in hill country --and it's just better for camping period.

#2 Diesel isn't slow. My wife is buying a TDI Cup Jetta for the very reason that its faster than a 2.5L Autobahn and a 2.0T GLI --all the while getting better milage. I'd own a GTD if they sold it here --but they don't. The VW .:R line is even going compression according to an interview with their director --and I'll be on that like white on rice if it comes out here.

#3 You left out how long a compression motor lasts. 500K miles is expected out of most Ford Diesel trucks and VW TDIs.
Here's my thoughts about 1 thru 3:

#1 It doesn't matter if a diesel engine produces 100x the torque at lower engine speeds. A transmission multiplies torque, so the value measured at the crankshaft is meaningless. Just downshift...modern transmissions can do that wonderfully. The powerband argument might work for a 80yo farm tractor or single speed moped but my car has more than one gear. Horsepower is what propels a vehicle, not torque. This is why a Porsche is faster than a Kubota.

#2 Most diesels are slower because they are designed for economical pedestrian use. Flagship performance cars sold throughout the world have gas engines because they perform better and have superior NVH characteristcs. Diesels cost more and owners seldom recoup costs thru fuel cost savings. For example, the Chevy Cruze diesel option for the typical owner shows a break even point sometime after 100+ yrs from a cost per mile standpoint. Can you keep it on the road that long?

#3 I have never experienced a modern gasoline motor wear out on synthetic oil. Gas engines far outlast the chassis, body and transmission. My cars seeing 15K to 20K mi per yr rust out in Pennsylvania around 250K to 300K mi but the engines are still running like NEW at that point (showing same perfomance & economy as new). I've swapped these high mile engines into other vehicles. Engines that outlast the vehicle are generally a waste.
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Why, because if you share it, you'll lose half of your Krautawesomeness?
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No because I risk revealing my source. Think before asking questions.
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Here's my thoughts about 1 thru 3:

#1 It doesn't matter if a diesel engine produces 100x the torque at lower engine speeds. A transmission multiplies torque, so the value measured at the crankshaft is meaningless. Just downshift...modern transmissions can do that wonderfully. The powerband argument might work for a 80yo farm tractor or single speed moped but my car has more than one gear. Horsepower is what propels a vehicle, not torque. This is why a Porsche is faster than a Kubota.

#2 Most diesels are slower because they are designed for economical pedestrian use. Flagship performance cars sold throughout the world have gas engines because they perform better and have superior NVH characteristcs. Diesels cost more and owners seldom recoup costs thru fuel cost savings. For example, the Chevy Cruze diesel option for the typical owner shows a break even point sometime after 100+ yrs from a cost per mile standpoint. Can you keep it on the road that long?

#3 I have never experienced a modern gasoline motor wear out on synthetic oil. Gas engines far outlast the chassis, body and transmission. My cars seeing 15K to 20K mi per yr rust out in Pennsylvania around 250K to 300K mi but the engines are still running like NEW at that point (showing same perfomance & economy as new). I've swapped these high mile engines into other vehicles. Engines that outlast the vehicle are generally a waste.
You obviously have a jaded view of the modern Diesel engine and performance. Might you take a look at the Audi R8 V12 TDI?

There is no downshifting with a good Diesel engine I know i don't. MPG I recouped that money in the first 12 months of ownership. My oil changes are every 6000 miles. Less than the gasser. Mpg 20% better than the Gasser.
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I think Peugeot has a diesel race car also. In a recent economy car shoot-out, the VW TDI was the fastest of the bunch according to C&D. It had the best fuel economy too- still in the 30s with the way that they floor it all the time during the tests.
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