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Old 03-13-2013, 11:11 AM   #121
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I tried to convey something similar a few pages back, all you have to do is adjust your driving style to the automated systems in place in the vehicle and most all of the DCT issues are gone, minus known mechanical ones.

I guess if you drove a manual for years and the clutch engagement point was high in the pedal travel and you bought car B and the engagement point was low in the pedal travel near the floor and the car constantly stalled in intersections because you failed to anticipate the engagement point and give the appropriate amount of gas at the correct time, the manufacture has failed, because you are going to have to adjust the way you drive the car to get the desired result? Every manual shift car and truck I have driven, and I have driven several, I have had to adjust the amount of gas given taking into consideration 4,6, or 8 cylinders and or diesel, and where and how the clutch engages. With a little practice, I am able to get the same drive ability out of each, but I can't drive them all the same way and expect the same results. So why is it so hard to comprehend, that you might have to make some adjustments to your driving style to get good drive ability out of a DCT?
This is such a fantastic point. I've had my focus for almost 1.5 years, 25k miles. When the warm weather comes, i expect i'll get the grinding again when it shifts, but otherwise the DCT is really great.

Whenever i drive a regular tranny now, I realize how great the DCT is and how used to it I've gotten. You do need to learn it's behavior a little though.

And overall, while the grinding is annoying as hell, the car is so great otherwise.. well, i'm really enjoying it now.
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Old 03-13-2013, 11:13 AM   #122
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We started out looking at 5spd's and before reading much here, I posted this thread. Looks like quite a few are happy with the DCT, but the level of those who aren't would make me too nervous about getting a bad one.

The one we test drove had a a bit of shudder but nothing else I noticed.
I was driving it like I'd stolen it though, so not sure what it would be like under normal driving.
Anyway the wife is looking forward to her new 5spd, here's hoping it gets 40+ mpg like some apparently do.

I was surprised how few 5spd's were on local dealers lots, and to get what she wanted we had to order it.
Take any claims of high or low mileage with a grain of salt. The car gets more or less what its rated for as long as it's not broken.

During the summer I was getting ~39, now about 35. Even around town, it's a very efficient platform.
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Old 03-13-2013, 12:16 PM   #123
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Old 03-13-2013, 02:16 PM   #124
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And overall, while the grinding is annoying as hell, the car is so great otherwise.. well, i'm really enjoying it now.
I've only had a quick test drive in a Focus with a DCT, and I can understand adjusting your driving style to the fact that this is an automated manual tranny.
But any amount of "Grinding" from my transmission would scare the heck out of me.
A bit of shudder under certain conditions, well maybe but Grinding?

Hopefully the car we have on order will be a good car, and if so we will probably have it until 150K or so.
If my transmission was making noises like that, it would not inspire enough confidence that I'd want to keep it around out of warranty.
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My wife and I test drove a 2013 Titanium with the SelectShift 6-speed in it last weekend - I found no problems with it, and the car's got 50 miles on it.

I have a 2011 F-150 with the 6-speed Select Shift in it, and other than a few firm shifts, it's been great (read those forums, quite a few have problems with it).

My wife mandated we get an automatic - she doesn't like manual transmissions. Bummer for me, but with my stop-and-go commute, I imagine I'll drop it into S and cruise to work.

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