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Old 02-24-2013, 05:36 AM   #91
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I'e had three, THREE Focus's with the DCT. Admittedly one was for only 1500mi as it was traded after hailstorm damage. Point is, I have never had to wait for them to adapt to driving, they were fine from day one. Two of them were with 7mi and 9mi on the odo when I drove off the lot. All those I know who also have them have not had problems either so my experience would indicate the occurrences of issues is not that great. Of listing of compacts, I see the Focus still highly rated in spite of the negative reviews from early tests and that would also indicate it is a good car. If it were as bad as some would have us believe, there would have been a massive recall, as it stands, there have been only TSBs so the problems are not as endemic as we are lead to believe. However, if you are the one who is dealing with it and the poor service that is the current norm for all service industries I can see why you would be angry or less enamored of the car you bought. But to label the car junk due to a few problems is not helpful or informative. To ignore the problems is also not helpful. So I think we need to just say what we ourselves have experienced, and let others decide from that, not the hearsay or rumors, however seemly accurate, that we choose to believe because it follows our own thinking.
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Old 02-24-2013, 05:52 AM   #92
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I finally got over treating mine like an automatic transmission at take off and it is working as well as I would expect. Use the throttle like it is a manual transmission. Easing into the throttle will net the same results as if you eased into the throttle on a normal manual transmission. Shudder. I believe it is because the PCM and ECM are taking over a bit of the throttle input to keep the engine from stalling, like what would happen in a normal transmission if you let off the clutch without enough throttle.

I have eliminated 100% of shudder at take off, with TC on, by using a bit more throttle at take off.
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Old 02-24-2013, 11:09 AM   #93
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I have eliminated 100% of shudder at take off, with TC on, by using a bit more throttle at take off.
I tried to convey something similar a few pages back, all you have to do is adjust your driving style to the automated systems in place in the vehicle and most all of the DCT issues are gone, minus known mechanical ones.

I guess if you drove a manual for years and the clutch engagement point was high in the pedal travel and you bought car B and the engagement point was low in the pedal travel near the floor and the car constantly stalled in intersections because you failed to anticipate the engagement point and give the appropriate amount of gas at the correct time, the manufacture has failed, because you are going to have to adjust the way you drive the car to get the desired result? Every manual shift car and truck I have driven, and I have driven several, I have had to adjust the amount of gas given taking into consideration 4,6, or 8 cylinders and or diesel, and where and how the clutch engages. With a little practice, I am able to get the same drive ability out of each, but I can't drive them all the same way and expect the same results. So why is it so hard to comprehend, that you might have to make some adjustments to your driving style to get good drive ability out of a DCT?

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Old 02-24-2013, 04:19 PM   #94
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Mine has worked perfectly since day 1 and I have over 40,000 miles. I see so many of these cars on the road now - they are everywhere. I bet the vast vast majority are automatics, so they must be doing something right. Itsa no brainer - you get one more gear and one less pedal!
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Mine has worked perfectly since day 1 and I have over 40,000 miles. I see so many of these cars on the road now - they are everywhere. I bet the vast vast majority are automatics, so they must be doing something right. Itsa no brainer - you get one more gear and one less pedal!
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Old 02-25-2013, 06:50 AM   #96
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More auto's on the road, cause of people being lazy?
Yea, just like more cell phones and nav systems. We're all getting lazy. Or maybe we like the convenience. Maybe we should all buy bicycles instead of being lazy and driving. Come on, let's enjoy our cars and let others enjoy theirs.
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Ordered an SE Hatch on Saturday!

When I started this thread I had no idea it would get so many reponses so fast, thanks to all who responded.

Placed an order on an SE Hatchback on Saturday for my wife.
Test drove a DCT but ended up ordering the 5spd, if this is a good car we will have it for many miles and the higher odds of getting a long term trouble free car was a factor. We like driving sticks too, and the Focus has a good one.

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MSRP after delivery was $24,270, we took the best of four offers at: $19,300 after all rebates.
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Congratualtions, I am sure you will love the car.
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Great! I'm sure you will enjoy it for a long time!
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I finally got over treating mine like an automatic transmission at take off and it is working as well as I would expect. Use the throttle like it is a manual transmission. Easing into the throttle will net the same results as if you eased into the throttle on a normal manual transmission. Shudder. I believe it is because the PCM and ECM are taking over a bit of the throttle input to keep the engine from stalling, like what would happen in a normal transmission if you let off the clutch without enough throttle.

I have eliminated 100% of shudder at take off, with TC on, by using a bit more throttle at take off.
But that's not a fix...it's relief. I've driven manuals all my life and have driven many dual-clutch cars (mostly race, but some others, as well). It even shuttered when I would put the pedal to the floor when I owned the car. It wasn't simply that it was a DCT, it was that the system did not function as it should. It worked perfectly until the TSB last year, and then it started acting up (literally within a week of getting it updated).

I know how a DCT should act, and I even know how this one should act (since that's it worked before the update), but it did not act that way.
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