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Old 02-20-2013, 02:32 AM   #21
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137 trap speed is no where near 700whp. Maybe mid 500whp
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Old 02-20-2013, 05:40 AM   #22
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Dot radials and purposefully not launching the crap out of it. He probably never got to wot till almost half track
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Old 02-20-2013, 09:19 AM   #23
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ok...not sure what any of this has to do with the thread topic... :/


Anyway, I set up a time this saturday to go look at the car and talk to him some about it.

Any suggestions on thing I should look for, ask, inspect? I've only recently been learning about these cars, so any experienced input would help.
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Old 02-20-2013, 09:31 AM   #24
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That car is cleaner than me! LOL, he threw a big chunk of money at it, car sat in the garage most of the time.
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Old 02-20-2013, 04:16 PM   #25
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honestly if i had the money to spend i wouldnt even have to inspect that car to buy it. however what i WOULD do is contact tom from focus-power. he is a very good tuner for the focus. his screen name on this site is 1turbofocus. tell him you are looking at buying this car, give him a link to it so he can see what all is done. tell him you want him to look at some datalogs on saturday. take your laptop with you and an old printer cable with the square connector with 2 of the 4 corners being rounded. im sure the guy that owns the car will be familiar with this and will probably be able to help and if not and you have access to the internet over there you can contact tom over instant messenger or just call him and he can walk you through the process of hooking your laptop up to the car and making a datalog. you e-mail that to tom, further inspect the car for boost/vacuum leaks, oil leaks, ticking from spun bearings, leaking thermostat housing, pops/squeaks in the suspension, etc. if this car is not done being tuned then you wont really know for sure how tight everything is until you finish tuning it and really put it through the ringer unfortunately.
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Well, if FloodYou doesn't get it, I hope someone from the forums does!
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I want his 5-lug hubs!! ohhhhhh forever alone face.

Guys, If I wasn't disabled, I would go with a twin disc any day for the power I'm achieving. My Lentech cost $6460.00, and that's without a transbrake.

Now Quaife did make a sequential getrag, but stopped. That was my first choice.
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5 lug conversion is pretty easy rudel. just gotta spend some money on pretty much all new suspension.

the 10.95 was not done with the 723whp focus. it was only at 540 or so whp at the time. he says so in that thread. the car hit 723 after that date. you just wanted the mph for that run

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Old 02-20-2013, 11:22 PM   #29
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im confused then because i know for a fact tom ran a lentech in his drag car that made over 700whp/tq and he then sold that trans which eventually made it to a friend of mine who is still running it at the 425whp/tq range daily. as of a few months ago he has put 30k miles on the car with the lentech with hundreds of track runs with no issues. that already beat the twin disk in longevity. what was it you told me? i will be lucky to get 15-20k miles out of the twin disk? and you also told me that the twin disk is very finicky and tough to drive where as the lentech is not. make up your minds! obviously i dont know anything about the twin disk from personal experience! why the hell do you think ive been pestering the ever loving shite out of you guys for the last 2 months? and lentech CAN make a ATX hold over 700whp/tq upon special request. i spoke with them over the phone a few weeks ago and they quoted me $4200 for one. the terminator that they offer on their site is rated at 500whp and is $3k. let me factor in cost on the two with ATX vs MTX here

ATX $4200. it has EVERYTHING ready to go.
MTX from a junk yard $200. quaife LSD $900+, twin disk clutch $1400, so already we are at about half the price of the lentech. but how many times are you going to have to replace that clutch? because this is a money spent over time deal as well. the lentech can get over 70k miles if its very well taken care of and you dont abuse it all the time. how many clutches would you have to replace in 70k miles?

im not trying to be an ass, im just taking the information that i have gathered and making the most logical assessment that i can with what i have. if the information that i gathered is wrong then my assessment is wrong, plain and simple. but as of now i have to go off the information that other people give me because i have no PERSONAL EXPERIENCE with either the twin disk OR the lentech as of right now.
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Ill pick twin disc. Of course it will be hard to drive at first since it is very graby. I've driven a twin disc and yes it was hard for a couple of times but I got used to it very quickly and it wasn't that bad to drive.

Also, (Roush can correct me if I'm wrong) you can either send the twin disc back if went out and they will send you a new disc for quarter of the price.

As for Tom's 700whp drag car, is there any proof???
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ask him about it. it got him 10.95 on radials, not slicks. could have gone very low 10s or high 9s i bet if he would have really launched the crap out of it on good tires but he built that car to be capable of driving from his house to the track and back. he wasnt a fan of having to replace snapped axles and motor mounts every time he went out and having to trailer the car.

and thats interesting about the twin disk but still, how long does it last?? if that is the case then i will happily admit defeat and take the twin disk over the ATX. but that is provided that i even WANT any more power than what the fx400 can handle.


Alright Twin disk time lol

Twin at first for Chris (when he bought my car) said it was difficult for him to get use to the clutch after never driving a TD car before, Me on the other hand have driven them and it came very easy for me. Chris now has gotten use to the clutch and will say its just as easy to slip and drive it as a normal clutch, The difference is getting use to a totally new way of how the clutch feels and what it likes, once you get past that then its the best purchase you will ever make. TD clutch life according to CM says you should check it at 15-20k miles and see how much life is left. I will only comment on how it last after looking at my old cars clutch when it reaches that mileage, hell it might last much longer then 20k miles since now it only sees street use. So as of right now no one knows how long they will last, But the best thing about them is they are rebuildable for 300.00 you will get all new disk and springs so that in its self saves huge money.

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Honestly the only lentech i have been able to touch is mikes, which has a price tag of over 6000 dollars for the terminator one with out transbrake so it is already over 4times more expensive then a twin disks. Auto trans need to be freshen up also so that would mean sending it out to lentech at whatever they charge to replace, the wet clutches, drums, whatever is worn at $xxx dollars. I cannot comment on there reliability as mike has does not have enough miles and honestly i only trust what i have personally seen, a trans will last longer doing shitty 60fts, i wanna see how long it last when you push it. We will find out on Mikes car thats for sure. going for atleast low 1.6 60fts.

So to wrap it up i still feel the twindisk is a much better option, until i can see how mikes trans hold up finger crossed cause we wont be easy on it.
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Damn I thought it would have been $400-500 for the disc replacement. That's not bad at all.
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