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Old 02-17-2013, 02:41 PM   #31
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If you do not drive off within 3 seconds you want the car to either keep holding the brakes or slip the clutch? I can't see this as being an issue as long as you start to move within 3 seconds or re-depress the brake pedal to hold the car stationary.
Its not an issue for me but it rolls back suddenly with the clutch not engaged. After the update with was not so sudden. It would slowly let the car roll back.
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The production software might have been different, however there has been no newer TSB released than 12B37, which went through at least two revisions before as people claim that the later programming like the 13s refuses to shift to 6th before 40 mph where as the original programming and every update until then would shift into 6th as low as 35 mph.
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That's not strictly true though as there would have been some notice of the software changes posted for the dealers to find them within the dealer connection page, however from what I've heard there has been no further revisions to the fsa 12b37 which indicates that there should not be any further software changes and they are likely only re-installing the same software over and over again.
I can attest my shift points changed, and I already had FSA 12B37 applied before the last update. It didn't get its own TSB or FSA so as far as I'm concerned, it's a stealth update.
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Old 02-17-2013, 03:45 PM   #33
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That's not strictly true though as there would have been some notice of the software changes posted for the dealers to find them within the dealer connection page, however from what I've heard there has been no further revisions to the fsa 12b37 which indicates that there should not be any further software changes and they are likely only re-installing the same software over and over again. Which may seem to help at first as it wipes a portion of the memory, but it would not fix the underlying issues as those who have problems that keep coming back after a reflash can attest to.
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1) Module updates (new firmware) are not necessarily accompanied by a TSB or FSA.

2) 12B37 does not define the (updated) firmware itself.

3) IDS will inform the tech if an update is available for installation. Rewriting the same firmware is not an option.
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Old 02-17-2013, 05:15 PM   #34
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A few points:

1) Module updates (new firmware) are not necessarily accompanied by a TSB or FSA.

2) 12B37 does not define the (updated) firmware itself.

3) IDS will inform the tech if an update is available for installation. Rewriting the same firmware is not an option.
Yay another Ford believer!

Again guys we are talking about 13' DCPS's.... not 12' manuals... starting to sound like some of you are talking about manuals.
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A few points:

1) Module updates (new firmware) are not necessarily accompanied by a TSB or FSA.

2) 12B37 does not define the (updated) firmware itself.

3) IDS will inform the tech if an update is available for installation. Rewriting the same firmware is not an option.
Considering how there was a section about recovering a deleted or corrupted session it would be theoretically possible to remove the software completely and put it on again.

Not really sure, but technically there should have been some documentation via the Ford dealer intranet which would document this software revision level.

There have seemingly always been complaints since day one no matter what revision the programming so its hard to separate actual mechanical/ electrical issues from those of expectations.

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Yay another Ford believer!

Again guys we are talking about 13' DCPS's.... not 12' manuals... starting to sound like some of you are talking about manuals.
I believe that the DCT can work fine, but I don't trust everything the dealer says to be factual.
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Old 02-20-2013, 12:30 PM   #36
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Hey guys. I made an appointment to get my oil changed for the first time (3,500 miles; bought new on 12/15/12) and decided to not tell them my issues until I got there. I explained that my car has been jerking/lunging on low speeds (starting), not shifting smootly, and vibration in the wheel and pedals (I confirmed this while driving the loaner 2012 Focus SEL with 23,500 miles - it performed closer to my 13' when it was new. He said it's likely that they will have to remove the transmission and test/inspect the it/the car. He said they may need to replace the "dual clutch system", and may need to hold the car until Tuesday.

A couple of weeks ago I spoke to my Ford Regional Customer Service person after Cory (FF) suggested I tell them about my other issue (which turned out to be normal operation) , and mentioned that I had read that many of the 2012's had issues with the clutch (oil leaking, etc) and they had to be replaced with allegedly "better" replacement parts, and I wondered if the 2013's could already have that problem. He said that if Ford knew that a replacement part was better, then (we assume) they would use it to begin with, especially the newer builds. I didn't worry about it until today, when I drove and really felt the difference between my car and the loaner. There is definately something weird going on with it. I can only hope the issue isn't too bad and that they can replace/repair the issue.

I'm looking forward to the responses/insights on this. Thanks.
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Old 02-20-2013, 12:41 PM   #37
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Hey Crystal, thanks for the follow up. Like I said in the previous posts already, I've seen a great improvement after the "computer update" and first oil/filter change. We'll see if those symptoms I had come back after 3,000 miles or so (when I noticed problems before).
I also installed a Steeda cold air intake this weekend, and run Shadowfax (my car's name) on premium gas from Shell.
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Old 03-12-2013, 11:43 AM   #38
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Generally, when they say they applied a "new" tsb, they're usually just re-installing the tsb from last spring. It usually helps for a short time (2-4 weeks, I'd say) but once the computer re-learns driving habits it's back to the crap.

THIS^^^ Seems like the obvious answer is to remove the adaptive learning software since these tx seem to function properly when you drive them away from the dealer but a week later start having issue again. Does anyone know if there's a way that WE can reset the transmission? Does unplugging the battery do this because i would install a quick disconnect for the battery in a HEARTBEAT and unplug it once a week if that's what it takes.
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Does anyone know if there's a way that WE can reset the transmission? Does unplugging the battery do this because i would install a quick disconnect for the battery in a HEARTBEAT and unplug it once a week if that's what it takes.
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Well there we go, perhaps the do-it-yourself fix is to simply install a knife-blade battery disconnect like this one



and simply reset the TX every couple of days or whenever it starts grinding again?
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