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Old 02-14-2013, 08:03 PM   #21
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Something else to think about if you live in the city.
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Ethanol is good for taking harmful particles out of automobile emissions, but a group committed to cleaner air is worried that gasoline makers might just end up putting more particulates in the blendstock.

“The [ultra-fine particulates] profile of the ethanol is very, very consistent,” but Greg Krissek, Director of Government Affairs for ICM, part of the Urban Air Initiative, told Joanna during the recent Iowa Renewable Fuels Association (IRFA) Renewable Fuels Summit that as ethanol blends get higher, gasoline makers are increasing the amount of particulate-forming ingredients on their end.

But Greg is still optimistic that higher ethanol blends will be used in the future. “I think there are very positive discussions with automakers about how to use mid-level blends. What we don’t want to happen is the unintended consequence down the road of what happens to that gasoline blendstock.”

You can find out more on the Urban Air Initiative’s website.
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Old 02-14-2013, 08:16 PM   #22
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You guys need to read this and do what you can to stop oil subsidies also. Some are listed at the end.
thanks for that.. interesting... personally, i don't think either the oil nor the ethanol industry should have any of the taxpayers' money... no subsidies... the oil industry, esp , makes enuf w/o sucking at the teat of the taxpayer.
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For the people that wanted real world mileage, I ran it for the 3 out of 4 months I had my car. My mpg was 22.3avg, that's combined but more city driving than highway. BUT, I also dynoed 175whp, 156wtq with only a green filter and rear muffler delete. I enjoyed it for sure, but I'm also not too stuck on economy.
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Absolutely, oil subsidies need to go along with all other corporate welfare. Green, coal, oil, farm, it all needs to go. Once all corporate welfare is gone, I would then entertain a conversation about medicaid, medicare, and social security, but not until then. Oh yeah, forget all the other confusers out there, all blends besides E85 need to go, end of discussion. More fuel efficient vehicles will take care of the particulate issues. If you haven't figured it out yet, all blends besides E85 are just a big lie, and E85 is in doubt.
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Absolutely, oil subsidies need to go along with all other corporate welfare. Green, coal, oil, farm, it all needs to go. Once all corporate welfare is gone, I would then entertain a conversation about medicaid, medicare, and social security, but not until then. Oh yeah, forget all the other confusers out there, all blends besides E85 need to go, end of discussion. More fuel efficient vehicles will take care of the particulate issues. If you haven't figured it out yet, all blends besides E85 are just a big lie, and E85 is in doubt.
Touche! spot on.
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