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Old 02-02-2013, 08:55 PM   #41
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That car on A/Z plan is stickering for $24,492 A/Z plan before any and all rebates. Currently there is either an $1000 RCL cash incentive in total split between two, one $250 one, and a $750 auto show bonus cash until 2/4/13 here, making the A/Z plan price 23492 before taxes and incentives. So unless they are offering a larger rebate, or it was an old unit there just isn't that much off to get it to 22k OTD. A base Ti starts at 22,157 on a/z plan. So I'm not sure where you're getting your numbers from unless you have a $2500 rebate or so.

So the car really isn't selling in N.Y. then.
NC, and unless he missed calculated something which could be possible this is my price but I will speak with him on Monday and keep you posted


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MSRP $26,780

A-Z Plan Price $24,493.72

Current applicable rebates are $1500 $1000. The second $1000 requires finance with Ford Credit and this can be taken as a rebate, or you can opt for it to be applied against the first three payments, up to a total of $1,000. $2500 TOTAL

Your "out-the-door" is $22,861.53. This price includes NC Highway Use Tax, license, title and registration fees. Usual and customary doc or dealer fees of $499 are waived when purchasing on a Ford Plan.



My question is do you think I can get the dealer to accept the $750 private cash and the $750 auto show cash bonus on top of the rebates and A plan?
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Old 02-02-2013, 09:08 PM   #42
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NC, and unless he missed calculated something which could be possible this is my price but I will speak with him on Monday and keep you posted


This is his exact email


MSRP $26,780

A-Z Plan Price $24,493.72

Current applicable rebates are $1500 $1000. The second $1000 requires finance with Ford Credit and this can be taken as a rebate, or you can opt for it to be applied against the first three payments, up to a total of $1,000. $2500 TOTAL

Your "out-the-door" is $22,861.53. This price includes NC Highway Use Tax, license, title and registration fees. Usual and customary doc or dealer fees of $499 are waived when purchasing on a Ford Plan.



My question is do you think I can get the dealer to accept the $750 private cash and the $750 auto show cash bonus on top of the rebates and A plan?
Technically since the second $1000 requires the Ford Credit financing at a higher interest rate that means you'd pay that back in terms of interest throughout the loan term.

The document fees are capped at $75 for A/Z plan.

Unless the general public could get and or combine the rebates, which it sort of sounds like they have already done in your price calculation, unless there was a separate $1500 rebate over the 750+750....
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Old 02-02-2013, 09:14 PM   #43
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Technically since the second $1000 requires the Ford Credit financing at a higher interest rate that means you'd pay that back in terms of interest throughout the loan term.

The document fees are capped at $75 for A/Z plan.

Unless the general public could get and or combine the rebates, which it sort of sounds like they have already done in your price calculation, unless there was a separate $1500 rebate over the 750+750....
So what I posted does this sound about right? I'm trying to figure if there is a way for me to save a lil more if possible
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Old 02-02-2013, 11:38 PM   #44
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I have a Ti and a ST. Drove the Ti for 7 months DD. I enjoyed the car but never did see over 24mpg avg ( my wife's driving it now, guess without the size 12 she's getting 30mpg avg) Personally I don't think the ST rides any different than the Ti. It out performs on every level, seems tighter all around. I like the Ti, Love the ST. Complaints about the seats, they have got softer or I'm just used to them now and enjoy them, only miss the heated seats in my ST2. I say go ST, you won't regret it.
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Your "out-the-door" is $22,861.53.
Ok, that makes a lot more sense. $22,861 isn't close to $21K OTD. Your numbers with using Ford finance for the extra $1000 off versus what I'm being told not using ford financing(and you shouldn't unless you are paying it off in three months, the rate is not competitive) makes sense. You are getting a slightly better deal on A plan than they are offering me, and the doc and titling fees added on for me make up the difference. I was thinking I was being priced a couple thousand high, but it looks to be only a few hundred more.

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A base Ti starts at 22,157 on a/z plan.
With no incentives or discounts applied? I was looking at the sheet the dealer had on his desk while I was in there today and swear his said $23,0xx. Any reason it would vary from region to region?
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I bought my Ti a week ago Friday and I used both the 1500 and 1000 without Ford Credit financing. You might want to check on that again.
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With no incentives or discounts applied? I was looking at the sheet the dealer had on his desk while I was in there today and swear his said $23,0xx. Any reason it would vary from region to region?
No, its 22195 before the destination and delivery, so $22,952 with destination and delivery before any incentives. Which is still below $23,000.

A/Z plan pricing should be the same across the country, although cars built at different times may have been built with different invoices at different points in time due to changes in the base price levels over time.
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I bought my Ti a week ago Friday and I used both the 1500 and 1000 without Ford Credit financing. You might want to check on that again.
There's regional differences in rebates. Where I am, I currently have $2000 no matter what, and an additional $500 if I use Ford financing. Of that, $1000 expires tomorrow, so I am waiting to see what they replace it with.
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No, its 22195 before the destination and delivery, so $22,952 with destination and delivery before any incentives. Which is still below $23,000.

A/Z plan pricing should be the same across the country, although cars built at different times may have been built with different invoices at different points in time due to changes in the base price levels over time.
Hmmm. that makes me wonder about the sheet he showed. Does this sounds right?
Msrp 24995
Invoice 23769
Xplan 23820 (I asked because I could get it if needed )
His first offer was at invoice. He dropped it to 23 even before I left.
I thought I had seen invoice of 233xx online, but was told online numbers were typically wrong. I figured 1-2% below invoice would be as far as I would find a dealer willing to sell one, which I'm pretty close to where I'm at if his invoice is right. If the online numbers are to be believed, there may be another $500 or so to play with.
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Because I'm getting the Ti for 21k otd including taxes and fees
I don't think that price had been said anywhere else in the thread... The first post had a higher figure for the Ti than the ST.

For the difference in what will probably be about 5k, is it really worth it? Honestly and extra 20% of the purchase price of the Ti when similarly equipped for 30% worse gas mileage and less comfy seats? The ST is great and all but for the price, I don't see it as worth it. If you want a just under $30k sporty car there are much better options out there.
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I'd go with the Ti. My pocket-racer days are long over.
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