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Old 07-01-2013, 10:40 PM   #1
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02 SE Won't start! Please Help!!

I own an 02 ford focus SE Automatic. It won't start. It doesn't even try to turn over. The lights inside the passenger compartment turn on. I have replaced the Battery, tested the starter and the relays, and still no start. I have spent three days trying to fix this and I can't go any longer without my car. Please help.


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Old 07-01-2013, 11:33 PM   #2
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Check fuses, try a different key.
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Old 07-02-2013, 12:04 AM   #3
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how did you test the starter? jump battery power to the solenoid? Are you getting a signal (battery voltage on the small wire when the key is turned to "start") to the starter solenoid?
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Old 07-02-2013, 12:56 PM   #4
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I took the starter to the nearby auto parts store and they tested it.
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Old 07-03-2013, 10:31 AM   #5
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Areas to look at:
Starter
Neutral safety switch
Starter relay
Starter switch
Steering column linkage

Yours is an '02. My daughters was an '07. Her problem began intermittently. Turn the key and no start. Keep turning the key and finally it would start. It got worse over time until she had to turn the key on and off until her hand hurt before it would start. The problem for her was the steering column internal linkage betweer the key cylinder on the right of the column and the starter switch on the left side of the column. Turning the key was not engaging the start switch which sends the current to the solenoid on the starter.

This link is a post I wrote stating how I diagnosed the symptoms and the repair. Good luck.
http://www.focusfanatics.com/forum/showthread.php?t=309714

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Old 07-04-2013, 01:07 AM   #6
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Well I have now replaced the Battery, Starter, and Starter Switch. I'm thinking it has to be the Neutral Safety Switch at this point. I don't know what the hell else it could be. We have checked all of the fuses, relays, and wiring. Please somebody help me..... I really don't have the 60$ for the new Neutral Safety Switch but I don't really have a choice now do I?
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Old 07-04-2013, 06:47 AM   #7
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You can't possibly have checked wiring or the issue of no power at the small wire to starter would be resolved...............meaning all previous claims now must be assumed to be inconclusive. You CANNOT check wiring by simply looking at it. It must be physically tested also as part of an overall system.

So many make these claims and incorrectly...................and just throw parts at what is one of the easiest to understand systems on car, but you need to be able to understand wiring diagrams and the like. 9 times out of 10 should change only one part and back up and running then, but you must TRULY check the parts, not just say so.

Battery, starter and starter switch (what starter switch, not even one on the car! Or there's THREE of them depending on how you look at it.) were all checkable as good/bad and quite easily. Guess what, neutral switch is checkable too..................nothing personal intended at all but the skills are sadly lacking here.

Could easily not be the neutral switch either...................

If the PATS light at the emergency flasher button is blinking rapidly then you got PATS issues or bad chip in key.
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I have one suggestion. Remove the new starter switch but leave the wires attached to it. Turn the key on to the run position. Take a screw driver and insert it into the slot in the starter switch and turn it all the way as you would with a key. It is spring loaded so make sure it turnes all the way. If the starter engages then your problem in located in the steering column.
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Old 07-04-2013, 06:41 PM   #9
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WHAT starter switch? That's the ignition switch. Then there is a relay and further down a solenoid, or ANOTHER bigger relay. ALL 3 could be called starter switches by those unlearned. Even the neutral switch could be called one since that is one of the things it does. So, 4 now. Just calling it a starter switch confuses things greatly.
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Old 07-10-2013, 05:36 PM   #10
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Well sorry for not being an expert at this shit. I'm a 21 year old disabled female who has no money and I had no idea what else to do. I have been fighting with this problem for two weeks now. I had someone come out and check the wiring I'm not some sort of that just looked at the stuff.
At this point the last person that looked at it says it might be the PATS because he hooked up a voltage meter to the starter and it got normal voltage but when i tried to turn the key it went straight to 00.
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