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Old 05-30-2013, 10:34 AM   #101
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This past weekend from Columbus to Nashville I was hitting approx 39 mpg according to the computer. At 350 miles I still had 154 miles to empty. I filled up because I was too nervous to test it lol.
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Old 05-30-2013, 10:24 PM   #102
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Best tank so far with my normal 70% city driving (87-octane, E10) was 421 miles with 36 miles to empty when I filled up. Put 11.59 gallons in, topped off. Roughly 36mpg. Normally, I get about 380-390 miles out of a 12 gallon fill-up with similar driving conditions (no hypermiling or super babying BS). Needless to say I was pretty happy!

Just got the PCM firmware updated to the latest revision (I was on Feb 2011 firmware), so we'll see if that improves or reduces my mileage after a couple tanks and the car re-learns my driving style.
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Old 05-31-2013, 06:17 AM   #103
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Wish we had a table/chart split out for manuals vs. autos.
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Old 05-31-2013, 06:25 AM   #104
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My mileage since new over the last 3K miles has been 30.5 mpg (I keep Trip 2 as the average over an oil change and Trip 1 as the average over a fill-up) according to the trip computer. That has been a mix of city/hwy (30/70). Figure break-in kills it a bit for the first 1K or so and I have certainly raced it around a bit. I am happy with the mileage and once the kids are done with school/activities, I will be 100% highway 5-days a week; should give a good opportunity to see what the true higher-end of the mileage I can expect will be - I suspect right around 34 with normal driving habits. The roof racks kill the mileage, they did on my last car and I am sure they are worth 3 mpg at least. I tried some hypermiling/babying b/c I wanted to see what difference it would make - being careful gives noticeable improvements (no jack-rabbit starts, coasting on downhills, using cruise religiously, drafting a little if you can). I really notice that the mileage drops off at 70 and above. Seems like you guys with the DCT really do better...they should have put a 6th gear on the manual to drop those highway RPMs. I also plan on switching back to regular fuel to see if that was a fluke.
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Old 05-31-2013, 08:47 AM   #105
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Best tank so far for me was just over 400 miles. 38.8mpg on a trip home from Charleston, IL to Louisville, KY. Mostly flat terrain and cruise set at 73 almost the entire trip. Im betting a 6th gear could have netted me somewhere in the low 40's for mpg as the motor was turning a shade over 3k rpm for about 4hrs straight. Even just a reduction to 2.8k rpm would have been an improvement. It's on of the few complaints I have with the car.

Normal driving/commutting puts me in the 32mpg range with a 70/30 highway/city guesstimate. I have all fillups over the last 19k miles recorded on fuelly if anyone is interested. I also recorded DIC reported mpg, engine run time, and odometer readings on each tank thus far.
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I know the DCT is a 6-speed...but common..how much engineering does it really take to put one more gear in there...its 2013 and would net you a few more mpg.
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Old 05-31-2013, 12:08 PM   #107
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I know the DCT is a 6-speed...but common..how much engineering does it really take to put one more gear in there...its 2013 and would net you a few more mpg.
With the 5-speed, it's really not a factor of engineering, but cost. Ford has had the MTX75 available off the shelf since at least 1999. It has proven itself as an extremely durable transmission over the years, even in higher horsepower applications. Ford initially projected that only ~7% of Focus owners would by the manual. So, they had to weigh the cost of developing or increasing supply of a new transmission to a very small population of buyers.

I'll take proven durability and a 1-2MPG reduction over a newly-engineered headache as the DCT has become for many people.
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Old 05-31-2013, 12:51 PM   #108
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With the 5-speed, it's really not a factor of engineering, but cost. Ford has had the MTX75 available off the shelf since at least 1999. It has proven itself as an extremely durable transmission over the years, even in higher horsepower applications. Ford initially projected that only ~7% of Focus owners would by the manual. So, they had to weigh the cost of developing or increasing supply of a new transmission to a very small population of buyers.

I'll take proven durability and a 1-2MPG reduction over a newly-engineered headache as the DCT has become for many people.
Understood. But engineering a manual...they are all pretty much durable. I think its more the issue you raise of ~7% owners buying manuals..for that amount I am surprised they even offer it! It wasn't even an option for me. Small car = manual all day long if you want to actually drive it. Big cars/vehicles = auto all day long. I actually considered the Fusion with the sport package and manual or the Accord Sport w/manual..both hard to find but I am sure worth the wait!
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Old 05-31-2013, 01:12 PM   #109
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I know the DCT is a 6-speed...but common..how much engineering does it really take to put one more gear in there...its 2013 and would net you a few more mpg.
I doubt there is more than about 1.5mpg difference between the 5sp manual and the 6sp DCT. The overwhelming majority of ALL car buyers get autos so that's where the development budget is. It looks like Ford could have spent a couple more years refining the DCT, but there is competition and you have to compete.

I've own mostly 5sp manuals 4-cylinder cars for over 35 years but opted for the 6sp DCT when I ordered my 2012 Ti HB and so far I've not had any problems with the DCT. If you do a lot of city driving or drive in deep slippery snow pretty often the DCT is probably not ideal and a regular planetary auto is preferred for those conditions, even over true manuals.


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Old 06-02-2013, 02:30 PM   #110
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840 miles, 75 mph average, 2 passengers, luggage, cases of beer, food coolers, etc = 36.8 mpg. But...city driving lucky to get 24 mpg.
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