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Old 02-22-2013, 01:24 PM   #111
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MyThic3LiTe; the big difference between Edmonton and St. Louis is when you get snow in Canada they actually do something about it. You know, salt, plow, etc. in St. Louis the road dept tells everyone to stay off the roads while its snowing then and they plow at 2:00am after it stops and wait for the weather to warm up to melt it all. Its a crazy place! (I am originally from Chicago and I have never seen such incompetance in a cities' road maintenance department!)
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Old 03-06-2013, 05:31 PM   #112
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You had snow tires though, and if the tcs was engaging turning it off should theoretically mean that the wheels would sit there and spin/ slip.
Damn ! Over 5600 posts ! It's probably time for a NEW car.............
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This is the first winter I have used snows on any car ever and I barely saw the TC light at all.... Even with the cruise set at 65 taking the barely plowed fast lane I flew by Jeeps, Hummers, and every other car crawling at 40 -50 in the plowed snow lane. Ice, snow, didn't matter. The only time the back end would even twitch was going under an overpass. Even then it was just a slight blip, enough to get my attention. The previous winters on my Conti DWS or Potenza RE92s I spent every winter staring at that blinking light and missing my Taurus. I cannot speak highly enough about the Goodyear Ultragrip Winter tires. 13/32 of tread helps too....and surprisingly enough they weren't that loud. Gas mileage went down by about 6 but I won't complain about it with the security I feel with those tires.

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Old 03-06-2013, 07:46 PM   #114
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I am originally from Chicago and I have never seen such incompetance in a cities' road maintenance department!
You want to see incompetence in winter snow you need to visit Baltimore or DC.
Just make sure you bring a tank to ride in.
My son grew up here in upstate NY and learned how to drive up here where it really snows.
Then spent a couple of years polishing his technique going to school in Chicago and now lives in Baltimore.
He tells me that between the idiots running the road maintenance department, the fools operating what few plows they have, and total jackasses trying to drive like they think its a sunny summer day on the street.
Its like a three ring circus of idiots.
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Damn ! Over 5600 posts ! It's probably time for a NEW car.............
Why is it time for a new car? I'm not one of those who constantly complains, although for some issues I do have the right to complain based on the poor dealer service for those issues.

I would slightly like an ST now, but its not available in my car's color.

Its fun to wind it out to the max even though its got a much lower limit than the ST.
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It's a shame there isn't a TCS ON/OFF button mounted on the dash somewhere like every other vehicle on this planet, navigating the menu maze to turn it off is frustrating and i FULLY AGREE that that automatic is garbage in the snow. Even feathering the gas it still engages too quickly and launch wheelspin is unavoidable thus triggering TCS which kills forward momentum. A "snow mode" option for TCS would be preferable allowing SOME wheelspin or cutting power output SLIGHTLY but not 99% like it currently does. Any REAL snow and you gotta muscle your way through anyway.

I wonder if ford even tested this vehicle in snowy conditions.
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Old 03-12-2013, 12:42 PM   #117
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It's a shame there isn't a TCS ON/OFF button mounted on the dash somewhere like every other vehicle on this planet, navigating the menu maze to turn it off is frustrating and i FULLY AGREE that that automatic is garbage in the snow. Even feathering the gas it still engages too quickly and launch wheelspin is unavoidable thus triggering TCS which kills forward momentum.
I never had issues with it last year. But this year, I ease on the gas and the wheels still spin!

This either has to do with the 12B37 update or the fact that I now have a bad clutch. That or my winter tires have gone to after 1 year.
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Had absolutely zero problems with snow or ice this winter, SE Sport, 5-speed, running the stock ContiProContact all-seasons. The only problem was getting stuck in about 3 feet of snow on the muddy part of our drive here. But, that's stick any car. If the snow's really bad, or the road very slick, 2nd gear starts with the TCS off. No sweat.

Fared much better than our friends' Outback, which was slip-sliding everywhere.
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It's a shame there isn't a TCS ON/OFF button mounted on the dash somewhere like every other vehicle on this planet, navigating the menu maze to turn it off is frustrating and i FULLY AGREE that that automatic is garbage in the snow. Even feathering the gas it still engages too quickly and launch wheelspin is unavoidable thus triggering TCS which kills forward momentum. A "snow mode" option for TCS would be preferable allowing SOME wheelspin or cutting power output SLIGHTLY but not 99% like it currently does. Any REAL snow and you gotta muscle your way through anyway.

I wonder if ford even tested this vehicle in snowy conditions.
Years ago Ford setup the transmission valve body's so that if you put it into second gear it would start in second.
That way it killed a bunch of the torque and let you start off in slippery conditions easier.
I don't know if the newer Ford tranny's will do it because all my vehicles for the last 15 years have had sticks.
And the wife's MKZ is a hybrid with an infinitely variable chain setup instead of the usual gears.
So next time it gets slippery, try putting the tranny in 2nd and see if that helps.
Worst thing that will happen is that it starts in first, just like normal, and only goes up to second.
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It's a PowerShift, unfortunately doesn't have that option.
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