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Old 12-15-2012, 12:16 AM   #1
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Transmission shifting issue.

Hello everyone, I have an '05 Automatic ZX4 with 145k miles and lately I've noticed that sometimes it revs high when shifting from 2nd to 3rd gear. It's mostly when the car is not warmed up, but it does happen when it is warm. I'd like to get it fixed before it becomes something more expensive. Here's a video that I took with the tach showing:
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Old 12-15-2012, 12:35 AM   #2
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Mornin! (grin)

B4 giving the right answer for the wrong car, I realized I didn't know the answer to a basic question - What trans. is in there?

Automatic or manual?

Thanks, That info will help get better answers.
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Old 12-15-2012, 12:43 AM   #3
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Sorry, added to the original post. It's an automatic.
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Old 12-15-2012, 06:31 PM   #4
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I'm interested in what you find out, b/c I have a similar problem. Flares between 1-2 and sometimes 2-3 when I pull out of the driveway in the morning; has done it for a long time. The transmission shop which does my flushes said it was most likely not the shift solenoids and would probably be over $500; a Ford dealer said "ooooo...yeahhhh...that's gonna be expensive". Transmission shop said it was okay to drive as long as I don't jump on it; I drive it pretty easy anyway.
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Old 12-15-2012, 07:45 PM   #5
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I have a led foot (see MPG) so I have to get it figured out asap. I need a transmission flush because my gears are slipping. I'm going to try that tomorrow and post the results.
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Old 12-19-2012, 08:48 PM   #6
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I just got finished a transmission flush. I'll going to wait a few days to see if the slip goes away, and I'll let you guys know.

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Old 12-19-2012, 10:15 PM   #7
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Unlikely that a flush will fix the problems in a 145,000 mile 4f27e.

Automatic transmissions have a lifespan, you are on the tail end of the expectation before needing a complete rebuild or replacement.

I would start looking for a low mile trans from a parts car, it's only a matter of time.

If I wanted to try something smaller, solenoid E would be my first shotgun of parts.
Sounds like the clutches in the trans are slipping at the 2-3 upshift, the only solenoid that changes state during that event is E, which goes from pulse width modulated flow to full-open. If it is not going full open and delivering enough line pressure, the clutches will slip more than they normally would. If the clutches slip too much (for any reason) they will destroy themselves with heat after not too long and it's too late.
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Old 12-19-2012, 10:49 PM   #8
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It has something to do with stone cold fluid, both mine have done it in increasing amount since they passed 100K. Only do it once stone cold on mine, will not flare if you remember and trail throttle on first shift only. After that first shift mine both work fine even under a hard load. Could be slight wear in a valve body passage or simply fluid drained from an accumulator. Have a good friend who runs a trans shop, he says 4F27Es have valve body wear troubles like so many other late model Ford ATX. That's what happens when you replace the shuttle valves with aluminum instead of steel, the steel oldschool ones lasted forever, the aluminum must be hardcoated since running in aluminum body, once the hardcoat wears off then the associated parts wear like lightning.

A flush shouldn't help that at all, sorry.............

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Old 12-23-2012, 02:11 PM   #9
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I have had this happen on a few cars, found the cure, most people don't like additives, they think they will cause more problems, well there is one that works for auto trans. its LUCAS TRANS FIX, you can get it at wal/mart 9 bucks. In an auto trans you have a valving -pressure system going on all the time, what happens is the valves, or i should say cylinders, they are the size of a pencil eraser, they move up and down as the car changes gears, when they get sticky, they don't slide,, i had a Saturn that would not go to 3rd gear, you put it in at a fast idle, let car run for 10 min, the next time i drove it ,it shifted like new, . now i put one half bottle in every car i own or buy, try it it works;;;;;;; i also add a little Lucas oil stabil, to everything i own, its super sticky, just a little in lawn mower, snow blower ect,,,,,, good luck
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Old 12-23-2012, 07:36 PM   #10
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Sorry, but if you got wear to allow aluminum to aluminum galling then there is no additive on the planet that can address that. Parts will seize even if flooded with oil.

I sold plenty of ATX additives and 99% of the time they did not work and sometimes even made things worse...................the VB is looking for a certain thickness and resistance in fluid there, when you change it you've just thrown a million dollars in shift quality engineering down the tube. ATX additives and motor additives are two non-associable things...............
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