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Old 12-15-2012, 07:44 PM   #81
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No, what I'm telling you is that the Focus *line* is unreliable. Yours may not be, but generally they are.

umm bullshit...wana explain what else is unreliable about this car other than the DCT?

and yea, MFT is great. A bit laggy but its absolutely fantastic otherwise, and SYNC voice has always been on point.
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Old 12-15-2012, 07:50 PM   #82
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I second this. Why not getting a system who's getting better and better? I never had big issues with my MFT, and with all the updates Ford did to it, it became a "must have" IMO.
couldnt have put it better myself. have only owned MFT with the latest update, but its great
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Old 12-15-2012, 07:51 PM   #83
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The DCT being unreliable is more than enough trouble. It is a major part of the vehicle, without it working correctly, you aren't getting far.

That is what all you focus supporters seem to be overlooking. It is not something insignificant like MFT being buggy. If the transmission doesn't work, you're screwed. This is a brand new car...we should not be having these issues. Like I have stated before, my DCT actually works smoothly, but I am holding my breath waiting for the seals to fail.
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im exaggerating A LOT haha. didnt mean to rub it in to any DCT owners, I feel your pain. In my household we all do a tremendous amount of driving, and we also keep cars in our family for decades until they are beyond run in to the ground and completely dead. An automatic transmission is guaranteed to fail in that time span so when I say they are designed to fail, I mean they will surely fail in those circumstances. if your someone who trades cars every 4-5 years, thats not a big concern for you, but for the long termers you pretty assume its gonna die around 100-150k miles
Fair enough...

I've been lucky so far with the DCT (not to say that it is perfect).
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That is what all you focus supporters seem to be overlooking. It is not something insignificant like MFT being buggy. If the transmission doesn't work, you're screwed. This is a brand new car...we should not be having these issues. Like I have stated before, my DCT actually works smoothly, but I am holding my breath waiting for the seals to fail.
Feel free to disagree with any of the following:

1) The main issues are clutch engagement (shudder) and clutch rattling noise (which I believe is harmless).

2) IMO, the real problem is service. Many DCT's have been reported to work well so it means (in theory) that they are all capable of working well. Older Focuses that have clutch problems should have the seals and clutch assembly replaced.

3) The transmission itself (the "gearbox") seems to be very reliable.

4) The current firmware may need some tweaks (for clutch engagement and shift points) but is not bad overall.
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Feel free to disagree with any of the following:

1) The main issues are clutch engagement (shudder) and clutch rattling noise (which I believe is harmless).

2) IMO, the real problem is service. Many DCT's have been reported to work well so it means (in theory) that they are all capable of working well. Older Focuses that have clutch problems should have the seals and clutch assembly replaced.

3) The transmission itself (the "gearbox") seems to be very reliable.

4) The current firmware may need some tweaks (for clutch engagement and shift points) but is not bad overall.
Those are all issues as well, but the seals failing is a huge concern and in my opinion it is not "if" it will fail but WHEN. Many on this forum have reported that when they brought their focus in for repairs the service managers have basically laughed and said "they are all failing" with multiple other foci being repaired with the parts on BACK ORDER.

This just like the steering rack issue (which was also a huge problem, parts on back order for 6-8 weeks..my new one actually had to be shipped from Canada - this was because thousands, maybe even tens of thousands literally were being replaced) which I have gone through, which has destroyed the feeling of my car is just horrible to experience on a brand new vehicle.
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When I got the car, MFT was a joke. It's great now and I love the stock sound system. My only complaint with the clutch is that dealers are overlooking serious issues. I think the transmissions are solid, but the version A clutch had legitimate problems.
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Those are all issues as well, but the seals failing is a huge concern and in my opinion it is not "if" it will fail but WHEN.
As I mentioned, Older Focuses that have clutch problems should have the seals and clutch assembly replaced.
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As I mentioned, Older Focuses that have clutch problems should have the seals and clutch assembly replaced.
The 3 dealers I visited would disagree.
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I don't know if this has been asked yet, but does anyone know how CR rated the Chevy Cruze or the Mazda 3? Just curious...
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