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Old 12-14-2012, 03:25 PM   #71
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I was a noob on this board 2 weeks before I bought my Focus back in May and within the first 10 minutes I was registered I knew to shy away from the DCT but I was sure I wanted a 5 speed anyway but I test drove two DCTs and they aren't a replacement for manual tranny no matter how much the DCT owners decry "it's a manual but not a traditional one you're used to". ;')
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Old 12-14-2012, 04:50 PM   #72
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And if CR were some be-all and end-all with regard to resale values, I'd be in full agreement with you. However, there are way too many variables in that to put much stock in any one factor, including CR.

This assuming anyone buys what's essentially an econobox for the resale value.
We listened to CR years ago when we purchased a Honda Accord. That car turned out to be the biggest turd to date on any car I've owned in my 32 years of driving. Every company builds one now and then....
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My car has never been in for service but you are telling me that my car is unreliable.

Also (and despite what CR says), I like MFT. If I was ordering a new Focus today, I wouldn't hesitate for a second to get it.

CR cannot determine how reliable any given car will be.
I second this. Why not getting a system who's getting better and better? I never had big issues with my MFT, and with all the updates Ford did to it, it became a "must have" IMO.
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This problem is C&d,Motor Trend,Automobile,Road&Track and more than a few on-line sites aren't impressed with the DCT and report issues with them on their long term review cars and I'm sure behind closed doors Ford knows the problems are bigger than they expected.
Of course the problem is still only going to affect a certain percentage of cars but that number seems to be higher than acceptable and buying a DCT is a bit like gambling with bad odds.
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This problem is C&d,Motor Trend,Automobile,Road&Track and more than a few on-line sites aren't impressed with the DCT and report issues with them on their long term review cars and I'm sure behind closed doors Ford knows the problems are bigger than they expected.
Of course the problem is still only going to affect a certain percentage of cars but that number seems to be higher than acceptable and buying a DCT is a bit like gambling with bad odds.
I sure hope Ford figures this out soon and doesn't decide to just go with a conventional automatic like the Focus' Escape and Fusion siblings. If we think our resale value is low now, imagine what it would be with an orphaned transmission?

My DCT is behaving (barely) OK but I'm not recommending a DCT - equipped Focus to anyone. As you say, it's still a gamble...
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I hope Ford figures it out too since the DCT is a good tranny when it works.
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I hope people stop buying automatics since they are in general designed to fail catastrophically

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Who told you that?
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Who told you that?

im exaggerating A LOT haha. didnt mean to rub it in to any DCT owners, I feel your pain. In my household we all do a tremendous amount of driving, and we also keep cars in our family for decades until they are beyond run in to the ground and completely dead. An automatic transmission is guaranteed to fail in that time span so when I say they are designed to fail, I mean they will surely fail in those circumstances. if your someone who trades cars every 4-5 years, thats not a big concern for you, but for the long termers you pretty assume its gonna die around 100-150k miles
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My car has never been in for service but you are telling me that my car is unreliable.

Also (and despite what CR says), I like MFT. If I was ordering a new Focus today, I wouldn't hesitate for a second to get it.

CR cannot determine how reliable any given car will be.
No, what I'm telling you is that the Focus *line* is unreliable. Yours may not be, but generally they are.
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