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Old 04-25-2011, 09:21 AM   #1
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Shifting points in a 2012 5 spd?

Hey,

I have a question for other manual drivers. I am been driving underpowered Ford Escort 5spds for years. In my Escort LX, I pretty much have to shift before 4K or the car sounds like it will explode. They are only 85HP or so.l

For a fair mix of fuel economy, enjoyment, and minimal engine wear, where do people feel are good shift points on these new 2.0L?

I really have no point of reference anymore so I was curious what other people felt. I don't mind sacrificing a small amount of fuel economy...... I like to drive :)

Any thoughts?


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Old 04-25-2011, 02:15 PM   #2
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The new 2.0L is solid right up to 6,500rpms , so I am sure you will be fine shifting between 3,500 & 4,000 without blowing the fuel budget
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Old 04-25-2011, 02:22 PM   #3
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Honestly with any manual car, if I am just cruising along laid back, I shift around 3k rpm, accelerate smoothly and slowly. If I want to push it, I'll accelerate faster and shift at a higher RPM, pretty self explanatory. Who said you have to shift at the same RPM all the time? lol.
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herbz- but what I am after is opinions on "Fun" Driving (pushing her a bit) without pushing too hard. I probably did not explain it well, sorry :)
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Old 04-25-2011, 03:25 PM   #5
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herbz- but what I am after is opinions on "Fun" Driving (pushing her a bit) without pushing too hard. I probably did not explain it well, sorry :)
Ahhh :) well in that case, it makes sense that the higher you rev your car, the more wear on the cylinder walls/pistons engine in general..

There is a red line for a reason... if you REALLY wanna go all out, take it all the way to the top.. but if you're looking to "moderately" have fun, I'd say shifting between 4000-5000 RPM shouldn't be a problem..

My best advice to you would be to drive it, and get a feel for yourself under different circumstances and situations. :)

In general, for me, shifting at 3k RPM under "laid back" conditions and/or driving around town... 4k-4500 RPM for better acceleration/highway merging etc. Anything above that is if you're really kickin it down :)

Hope that helps a bit more. Enjoy your new car!
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If you don't want to shift at redline, at least take the engine to peak torque:D
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long as im just cruising along, no higher than 2500, and I try to follow the eco shift light as long as im not on an incline or trying to hop on the highway. would like to take good care of this car and see decent mpg's, so far shifting at that point is paying off nicely (about 34mpg some city/alot of highway)

this is the first manual I have driven with traction control, and it sucks whenever I try to book it from a stop, especially at a stop on an incline. completely cuts power and the car just bogs down, or stalls out
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I shift as follows usually:

1-2 ---- 2,500 RPM
2-3 ---- 3,000 RPM
3-4 ---- 3,200 RMP
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long as im just cruising along, no higher than 2500, and I try to follow the eco shift light as long as im not on an incline or trying to hop on the highway. would like to take good care of this car and see decent mpg's, so far shifting at that point is paying off nicely (about 34mpg some city/alot of highway)

this is the first manual I have driven with traction control, and it sucks whenever I try to book it from a stop, especially at a stop on an incline. completely cuts power and the car just bogs down, or stalls out

Is that what's doing it? I've stalled mine three times now due the slow response starting in 1st. I'll try cutting the TC and see what happens. Straight PISSES ME OFF that I have to rev it to 1500 to get going.

As far the OP question: Try this on a smooth flat. I wouldn't recommend it in 1st though. Once you're off the clutch, floor the gas to WOT and hold it. Watch your tach and pay attention to the torque gain at exactly 3500. Feels so good I keep mine to about 4500-5000.

Now the eco-mode always wants me to shift at 2200-2500, but that's SO against why I bought a manual to begin with. I'm not driving a semi here with 13 gears! I need some grunt from that engine before it's time to shift. Plus I'm coming from hi-rev imports and still getting use to the Duratec. WHOLE different world. But I'm liking more each day.
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Is that what's doing it? I've stalled mine three times now due the slow response starting in 1st. I'll try cutting the TC and see what happens. Straight PISSES ME OFF that I have to rev it to 1500 to get going.
Yeah you need a lot more gas to get the car going, and barely let out any clutch. Its even worse if you have Max AC on.

One you get the timing right, its fine too. But I've had my share of stalls too. More so than any manual I've driven.


I usually shift at the eco light as well, no more than 3000 RPMs. Unless I'm really eager to go, I've taken it up to redline a few times just for kicks. Car sounds great.
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