Apple implemented non-standard MAP with iOS6 - Ford Focus Forum, Ford Focus ST Forum
Ford Focus Forum
HomeContact UsAbout UsGalleryDiscussion ForumsMarketplace


Go Back   Ford Focus Forum, Ford Focus ST Forum > Ford Focus Third Generation > MK3 Focus

MK3 Focus The place to chat about general questions, window tinting, exterior body, interior and lighting upgrades for the third generation 2012-Current Focus.

Search This Forum | Image Search | Advanced Search    
Ford Focus Tire & Wheels FocusFanatics Merchandise

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 11-28-2012, 09:46 PM   #1
JessicaTi
Focus Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Fan#: 89253
Location: Miami, FL
What I Drive: 2012 Ti

Posts: 227
FF Reputation: 4 JessicaTi Good Standing Member
Buy-Sell-Trade Rating: (0)
Apple implemented non-standard MAP with iOS6

Per SMR, testing shows that iOS6 has a non-standard implementation of MAP, therefore texts won't work in a robust manner with MFT. Ford is trying to work with Apple.


http://www.nsapp.fordtechservice.dea...N_iop_2_00.pdf


JessicaTi is offline  
    Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 11-29-2012, 05:43 AM   #2
BetaDnB
Drum n Bass Lover
 
BetaDnB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Fan#: 87466
Location: Buffalo, NY
What I Drive: 2012 Silver SE Sport

Posts: 1,970
FF Reputation: 11 BetaDnB Great Standing Member
Buy-Sell-Trade Rating: (0)
You're not really surprised are you? Everything Apple does is non standard. Look at their cables. I'm surprised they don't have their own special usb ports.
__________________
Sedan Revolution #249 - 2012 SE Sport - ╠╬╝ - Ingot Silver - 201A - K&N w/ snorkel delete - Blox Type R Knob
BetaDnB is offline  
    Reply With Quote
Old 11-29-2012, 07:11 AM   #3
smizak
Focus Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Fan#: 92058
Location: Buffalo, NY
What I Drive: 2012 Black SEL

Posts: 219
FF Reputation: 2 smizak Good Standing Member
Buy-Sell-Trade Rating: (0)
I was at a wifi seminar for work yesterday and the bluetooth app engineer for Microchip was telling us that Crapple has started to implement Bluetooth in a non-standard way, which of course is going to force a bunch of developers to comply and pay the "Apple Tax" just to be able to sell accessories. I understand they want to be "ground-breaking" all the time, but undermining standards constantly because you can and you're big enough to do it sucks. That is costing $$$ everywhere for everyone. The Bluetooth SIG should stop bending over and pull their qualification.
smizak is offline  
    Reply With Quote
Old 11-29-2012, 10:26 AM   #4
unfocused1
Focus Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Fan#: 95246
Location: Twin Cities, MN
What I Drive: 2012 Candy Blue Ford Focus SEL

Posts: 414
FF Reputation: 2 unfocused1 Good Standing Member
Buy-Sell-Trade Rating: (0)
Quote:
Originally Posted by JessicaTi View Post
Per SMR, testing shows that iOS6 has a non-standard implementation of MAP, therefore texts won't work in a robust manner with MFT. Ford is trying to work with Apple.


http://www.nsapp.fordtechservice.dea...N_iop_2_00.pdf

"robust"? I think "reliable" Or "accurate" is more apropos...

And given how Apple was blathering about "open standards" some time ago (re: HTML5), giving back to the open source community that gave it much of OS X (and therefore iOS) in the first place, it's not exactly funny to read "non-standard", which is something every company would do to ensure "customer lock-in".

I used to be a fan of Apple, but ever since "You're holding it wrong!" followed up by the articles of the engineer letting the CEO who blamed the customer that there was a defect and that said CEO chose to ignore it, never mind more technical articles that show how these overpriced things are poorly built, it's been harder to like Apple ever since.
__________________
A fan of Ford, Freedom, Duncan Yo-Yos (but not Duncan Hines confectionary), and Strattera...
unfocused1 is offline  
    Reply With Quote
Old 11-29-2012, 04:27 PM   #5
MyThIc3LiTe
Focus Addict
 
MyThIc3LiTe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Fan#: 95163
Location: Edmonton, Canada
What I Drive: 2012 Focus Titanium Blue Candy

Posts: 782
FF Reputation: 4 MyThIc3LiTe Good Standing Member
Buy-Sell-Trade Rating: (0)
I'm waiting for the Apple apologists on this forum to even try and spin this the right way.

Its a pain in the ass when I have my other devices that work well with MFT and all systems and then iOS comes and takes a massive dump.

Hell, since iOS 6 the song names don't even show up over A2DP streaming.
__________________
2012 Ford Focus Titanium Blue Candy Hatch 2009 Suzuki Swift+ - Traded in 2006 Lincoln Zephyr - Traded in

http://www.aniteshjaswalphotography.com
If you live in Edmonton, AB I would be more then happy to do a shoot with you!
MyThIc3LiTe is offline  
    Reply With Quote
Old 11-29-2012, 06:35 PM   #6
metal_hed
Focus Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Fan#: 88974
Location: Schomberg, Canada
What I Drive: 2012 Race Red SE 5MT

Posts: 55
FF Reputation: 1 metal_hed Good Standing Member
Buy-Sell-Trade Rating: (0)
This is one of the main reasons i refuse to buy Apple products. Always have some sort of proprietary method of getting things to work. It makes something that should be so easy very complicated.
metal_hed is offline  
    Reply With Quote
Old 11-30-2012, 12:14 AM   #7
Faygo Focus
Focus Addict
 
Faygo Focus's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Fan#: 85587
Location: Detroit, MI
What I Drive: 2012 Tuxedo Ti with James Bond Pkg

Posts: 568
FF Reputation: 2 Faygo Focus Good Standing Member
Buy-Sell-Trade Rating: (0)
Quote:
Originally Posted by BetaDnB View Post
You're not really surprised are you? Everything Apple does is non standard. Look at their cables. I'm surprised they don't have their own special usb ports.
You mean like in 1998 when they introduced the iMac and it had USB ports only instead of DB9 or DB25 or other serial ports? And everyone screamed bloody murder because nobody was using USB ports and no peripherals supported them. And now...
Faygo Focus is offline  
    Reply With Quote
Old 11-30-2012, 07:35 AM   #8
Grennum
Focus Rookie
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Fan#: 105684
Location: Scotland, Canada
What I Drive: 2013, Black, SE+Black

Posts: 4
FF Reputation: 1 Grennum Good Standing Member
Buy-Sell-Trade Rating: (0)
This is a car forum right? Not a weird gadget forum where people defend their devices like sports teams?

Lets add some perspective, the worlds best selling car, does not work correctly with the worlds best selling phone.

The phone sells millions per week, and the car sells tens of thousands per month. From a business perspective it is far more likely that a Ford Focus owner will have an iPhone then an iPhone owner will have a Ford Focus. That tends to put the burden on Ford to make this work, and interestingly they have indicated that they will do just that.

As for Apple, they have always pushed and manipulated standards. We could argue about their reasons, but honestly I haven't never spoken to any of the management at Apple, nor read very many interviews about this topic, how do we know anything about their motivations?

Webkit is the most popular layout engine on the internet, it is heavily contributed to and originally (kinda) developed by Apple, then open-sourced.

Lets stick to talking about cars.
Grennum is offline  
    Reply With Quote
Old 11-30-2012, 07:36 AM   #9
lewisra
Focus Addict
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Fan#: 93289
Location: Howell, MI
What I Drive: 2012 Tuxedo Black SEL

Posts: 571
FF Reputation: 3 lewisra Good Standing Member
Buy-Sell-Trade Rating: (0)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Faygo Focus View Post
You mean like in 1998 when they introduced the iMac and it had USB ports only instead of DB9 or DB25 or other serial ports? And everyone screamed bloody murder because nobody was using USB ports and no peripherals supported them. And now...
Agreed, they are on the front edge of a lot of good things. They just need to work on backward capatibility a bit more until everyone else catches up or standardizes.
lewisra is offline  
    Reply With Quote
Old 11-30-2012, 09:43 AM   #10
smizak
Focus Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Fan#: 92058
Location: Buffalo, NY
What I Drive: 2012 Black SEL

Posts: 219
FF Reputation: 2 smizak Good Standing Member
Buy-Sell-Trade Rating: (0)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Faygo Focus View Post
You mean like in 1998 when they introduced the iMac and it had USB ports only instead of DB9 or DB25 or other serial ports? And everyone screamed bloody murder because nobody was using USB ports and no peripherals supported them. And now...
Totally different situation. This is not adopting a new technology.

They are now using their power to pervert an open standard, one that was designed to be open and free to further innovation and competition, to force developers and manufacturers to pay to use that open standard on products that Apple develops.

That is fine in and of itself. But they should not be allowed to use the Bluetooth logo and they should not be able to call themselves or their products compliant to the standard.
smizak is offline  
    Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks & Social Networks
-->
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:23 AM.


Copyright 2002-2014 FocusFanatics.com. All Rights Reserved : Terms of Use : Privacy Policy : Advertise Information

Focus Fanatics Ford Focus Forum offers many fun ways for you to engage with other Ford Focus Owners from across the world. Whether it be about the aftermarket performance modifications, technical how-to's, European tuned suspension or awesome fuel economy similar to the Acura TLX or Fiesta ST. You can find all Ford Focus and Focus ST related information here. Join our Ford Focus discussion forums and chat with local Focus enthusiasts in your area.