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Old 11-20-2012, 08:41 AM   #11
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I gave up on the IOLM and finally had my oil changed after 9,000 miles. I got my "notice" yesterday and it would have been over 12,000 miles since my last oil change had I waited. It's easy enough to reset. But still---12,000+ miles?
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Old 11-20-2012, 03:28 PM   #12
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Yeah, I am really leary of letting it go that long. How does the system know the quality of the oil going in. A lot of the 15 minute oil change places use bulk recycled or partially recycled oil. Does the system assume a minimum oil quality? If I am going to let it go 10K+ I would use synthetic just for the piece of mind, quality wise. I haven't done an oil change yet (only 1k so far on the car) but I won't let it go longer than 10K at any time and will use synthetic every time with a filter every time.
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Old 11-20-2012, 03:52 PM   #13
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I just did total synthetic on this oil change for the first time. We'll see what happens. They told me I can go at least 8000 miles.
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Old 11-21-2012, 01:29 PM   #14
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I gave up on the IOLM and finally had my oil changed after 9,000 miles. I got my "notice" yesterday and it would have been over 12,000 miles since my last oil change had I waited. It's easy enough to reset. But still---12,000+ miles?
It is possible. As sailor mentioned, lots of highway driving will extend your OCI notification out. The really nice thing about the new IOLMs is that they account for changes in your driving style from one OCI to the next.
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Old 11-21-2012, 01:31 PM   #15
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Well, I guess the question is: should I really trust it?
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Old 11-21-2012, 03:43 PM   #16
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Yeah, I am really leary of letting it go that long. How does the system know the quality of the oil going in. A lot of the 15 minute oil change places use bulk recycled or partially recycled oil. Does the system assume a minimum oil quality? If I am going to let it go 10K+ I would use synthetic just for the piece of mind, quality wise. I haven't done an oil change yet (only 1k so far on the car) but I won't let it go longer than 10K at any time and will use synthetic every time with a filter every time.
Yes, the IOLMs are expecting a minimum quality of oil. That quality can change from one model year to another, as new oil specifications are released for the new engines, and between different models (based on engine types and/or oil types). Your Owner's Manual should provide a minimum oil quality specification. Or you could PM Crystal to see if she knows what you should use for your model & year. The Motorcraft 5W-20 syn blend meets pretty generic specs of GF-5 & API SN, so even if bulk or recycled oil meets those minimum specs, your IOLM should still return appropriate results.

And you can always up-spec the oil to something of better quality, like Mobil 1 or Amsoil's PAO/Group IV full syn. Then it becomes a little harder to tell when the oil is ready to be changed. Obviously, you can go longer than you would with an oil meeting only the minimum specs, but for how much longer? Since none of my cars have IOLMs, I send my oil out to a lab for Used Oil Analysis (UOA) to determine how long I can go. Since each car has a different engine & a different driver (meaning a different driving style), each car gets a different OCI based on its UOA results. My wife's 2002 2.0L 4 cyl turbo Saab (130k mi) gets an oil change every 5k mi with Mobil 1 5W-40. My 1990 2.0L 4 cyl n/a Saab (273k mi) gets an oil change every 20k mi with Mobil 1 10W-40 High Mileage. And my daughter's 2002 Zetec Focus Wagon (157k mi) has had only one oil change so far, after 16k mi with Mobil1 0W-40. But that was after 2 yrs, so I felt I should probably change it anyway.

I also discovered that you can change just the oil filter & see a noticeable improvement in oil quality (based on UOA results). On my wife's 1999 turbo, I was able to easily extend the OCI from 5k mi to 10k mi by only changing the filter. But if you don't have an IOLM, I'd still recommend having UOA done.
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Old 11-21-2012, 03:54 PM   #17
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Well, I guess the question is: should I really trust it?
The only way to tell is to have independent Used Oil Analysis (UOA) run on your oil. I have H.O. Penn's S.O.S. labs run mine. But I was willing to trust that the oil I was using (Mobil 1) wouldn't let me down while I was sweating out the long OCIs. And I was also willing to run multiple UOAs over several years worth of driving so that I could establish a valid trend for each engine. You have to keep in mind that a single UOA is not enough data to establish a valid trend history, so I'd suggest a minimum of three UOAs. The more, the better.

Of course, my general recommendation is to only do what you feel comfortable doing. You have to be able to sleep at night.
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Old 11-22-2012, 04:31 PM   #18
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Eiron answered the "trust" question quite well!

To paraphrase for chuckles, If you "cheat" the system (by using cheap oil), it'll "cheat" you! (by not telling to change it when you should).

Factory spec. oil or better, no worries....
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Well, I guess the question is: should I really trust it?
Hi mdaby3,

I always encourage people to follow what their Owner's Manual say. For your vehicle, the IOLM will go off when you're due for an oil change, but we also recommend that you not exceed one year or 10,000 miles between changes.

If you have any questions, feel free to reach out to your dealership or send me a PM. You can also download a copy of your Owner's Manual here: https://owner.ford.com/servlet/Conte...OwnerGuidePage

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... Or you could PM Crystal to see if she knows what you should use for your model & year. The Motorcraft 5W-20 syn blend meets pretty generic specs of GF-5 & API SN, so even if bulk or recycled oil meets those minimum specs, your IOLM should still return appropriate results...
Awesome info, Eiron. Your oil suggestion is spot-on; we recommend Motorcraft SAE 5W-20 or an equivalent SAE 5W-20 oil meeting Ford specification WSS-M2C945-A.

Have a great weekend!
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