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Old 12-06-2012, 02:09 PM   #81
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AAAH! you guys move too fast! haha

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My car was $16,500 ... especially since Ford changed all the option packages around for 2013 so that the same car would be thousands more if equipped the same way today.
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actually 2013 sees a streamlining of packages and options, as well as slightly lower pricing (especially the SE with leather and navi). Leather and the 203A package are all bundled together cheaper than optioning them on a 2012. MFT/Sync package is 1495 on an SE, vs 1200+795 for MFT+Navi on the SEL's and Ti's. SE's still offer winter package, parking sensors, and blackout kits as standalone options, so you can pick and choose what you want off of a Titanium without the Titanium premium. Even an SE loaded to Titanium spec (minus backup camera and a push start/fob) is a grand cheaper than the Ti. Money saved in '13s, woohoo!

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True !! But some investments are worse than others. Namely ... loaded $30K econoboxes....
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A Honda Accord with leather would be probably the best near 30k investment in a car, and even then the smart thing to do would be to get one cheaper/lightly used. and in Gray. and avoiding red meat. and all other excesses in life. Celibacy avoids unwanted pregnancy. I think a lot of us still chose the stupid/risky option LOL

REV, your Focus today with all the incentives can be had for cheaper than what you paid, and next years incentives will be better! Shouldn't you have waited? hmmm

Additionally The perennial Civic will certainly retain appeal and resale value far better than focii. By a show of hands (you too Rev), who would rather invest in a Civic? didn't think so! Arguing which options make or break this car is a pissing contest. Many prefer content over size, and I for one prefer a loaded Focus over an Accord. Mini Cooper anyone? There are enough idiots dumping 30 grand into those overpriced crotch boxes to the point Mini proliferated into a family of overpriced crotch boxes. None of their drivers are complaining about financial value because they didn't buy into a Mini for that reason. The crazy options on a Mini or a Focus are not only for the cheap-o's, but for people stepping down from luxury cars. Ford is just capitalizing on that trend.

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Actually what I'm saying is that the smartest thing to do is to buy the size car you need ... equipped REASONABLY ... neither stripped .... nor loaded.

If the answer for you (not you specifically kam) is yes ... then buy them and live with the consequences of crushing depreciation.
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Everyone should equip their car to the minimum that will make them not regret their purchase in 6 months.
How about: The smartest thing to do is to buy the size car you need, but if the answer for 'you' is yes to __________ (noun), buy them and live with the consequences of __________ (adj) depreciation. Everyone should equip their car to the minimum that will make them not regret their purchase in___________ (time). All hail the _________ (adj) Ford Focus!
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actually 2013 sees a streamlining of packages and options, as well as slightly lower pricing (especially the SE with leather and navi). Leather and the 203A package are all bundled together cheaper than optioning them on a 2012. MFT/Sync package is 1495 on an SE, vs 1200+795 for MFT+Navi on the SEL's and Ti's. SE's still offer winter package, parking sensors, and blackout kits as standalone options, so you can pick and choose what you want off of a Titanium without the Titanium premium. Even an SE loaded to Titanium spec (minus backup camera and a push start/fob) is a grand cheaper than the Ti. Money saved in '13s, woohoo!


A Honda Accord with leather would be probably the best near 30k investment in a car, and even then the smart thing to do would be to get one cheaper/lightly used. and in Gray. and avoiding red meat. and all other excesses in life. Celibacy avoids unwanted pregnancy. I think a lot of us still chose the stupid/risky option LOL

REV, your Focus today with all the incentives can be had for cheaper than what you paid, and next years incentives will be better! Shouldn't you have waited? hmmm

Additionally The perennial Civic will certainly retain appeal and resale value far better than focii. By a show of hands (you too Rev), who would rather invest in a Civic? didn't think so! Arguing which options make or break this car is a pissing contest. Many prefer content over size, and I for one prefer a loaded Focus over an Accord. Mini Cooper anyone? There are enough idiots dumping 30 grand into those overpriced crotch boxes to the point Mini proliferated into a family of overpriced crotch boxes. None of their drivers are complaining about financial value because they didn't buy into a Mini for that reason. The crazy options on a Mini or a Focus are not only for the cheap-o's, but for people stepping down from luxury cars. Ford is just capitalizing on that trend.

SO with a little chopping, I think we can make a solid conclusion ad-lib:




How about: The smartest thing to do is to buy the size car you need, but if the answer for 'you' is yes to __________ (noun), buy them and live with the consequences of __________ (adj) depreciation. Everyone should equip their car to the minimum that will make them not regret their purchase in___________ (time). All hail the _________ (adj) Ford Focus!
Spec my exact car out and see if it's cheaper now.

SE sports pkg, roof, 201a, 5 speed.


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Old 12-06-2012, 03:16 PM   #83
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actually 2013 sees a streamlining of packages and options, as well as slightly lower pricing (especially the SE with leather and navi). Leather and the 203A package are all bundled together cheaper than optioning them on a 2012. MFT/Sync package is 1495 on an SE, vs 1200+795 for MFT+Navi on the SEL's and Ti's. SE's still offer winter package, parking sensors, and blackout kits as standalone options, so you can pick and choose what you want off of a Titanium without the Titanium premium. Even an SE loaded to Titanium spec (minus backup camera and a push start/fob) is a grand cheaper than the Ti. Money saved in '13s, woohoo!
I don't think so. My SEL would've been hundreds more and there still would've been things I have now that I wouln't with the '13, like dual zone HVAC (w/o spending $1500 on MFT), rain sensitive wipers (which work great on my car), Homelink garage door opener, and 1 or 2 other things.

Nope, glad I got my '12.
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I don't think so. My SEL would've been hundreds more and there still would've been things I have now that I wouln't with the '13, like dual zone HVAC (w/o spending $1500 on MFT), rain sensitive wipers (which work great on my car), Homelink garage door opener, and 1 or 2 other things.

Nope, glad I got my '12.
Exactly ... mine would have been much more as well

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Good try ....

My incentives were $2500 from Ford, $1000 discount from the dealer, and $1000 on the sticker from Ford .... bud.

Still waiting for you to show my car would be less .... with the exact same and/or additional equipment,


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what was msrp and indicate destination

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Aren't there sites where you can go find out what recent sales are?

http://www.truecar.com/prices-new/fo...2013/9DA737C6/

Just looking quickly at that - it looks like the incentives would make my current car ~3000 less than when i bought it.
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Aren't there sites where you can go find out what recent sales are?

http://www.truecar.com/prices-new/fo...2013/9DA737C6/

Just looking quickly at that - it looks like the incentives would make my current car ~3000 less than when i bought it.
The SE's can no longer be equipped as my car is due to package requirements.

My car would cost thousands more.

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