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Old 12-24-2012, 10:18 PM   #1
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I'm not one for product endorsements, but in light of how much of a difference a certain product made to my car I just can't keep quiet on this.

I bought myself the Steeda rear sway bar with some of this years Christmas bounty and just finished installing it. While I haven't had a chance to really push things yet just driving out of my windy development and to the mall made my jaw drop. I could immediately tell that the car felt more connected with the road, the rear end doesn't "float" as much as it used too though it was never bad. Going in and out of corners is where things get nuts; the car just feels so much more toss-able now. Curves and off ramps that I used to have to brake a little on I can take at speed with no problems whatsoever. (Not to say I'm driving like an idiot, I can just go faster now without pushing it) The car feels much more like our 08 Mazda 3 sport now, albeit much more comfortable and refined. Very pleased with my purchase so far, and I can't wait for the rear engine mounts(MS3) I ordered from Mazda to show up to really make the Focus shine.


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Old 12-24-2012, 10:23 PM   #2
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I'm not one for product endorsements, but in light of how much of a difference a certain product made to my car I just can't keep quiet on this.

I bought myself the Steeda rear sway bar with some of this years Christmas bounty and just finished installing it. While I haven't had a chance to really push things yet just driving out of my windy development and to the mall made my jaw drop. I could immediately tell that the car felt more connected with the road, the rear end doesn't "float" as much as it used too though it was never bad. Going in and out of corners is where things get nuts; the car just feels so much more toss-able now. Curves and off ramps that I used to have to brake a little on I can take at speed with no problems whatsoever. (Not to say I'm driving like an idiot, I can just go faster now without pushing it) The car feels much more like our 08 Mazda 3 sport now, albeit much more comfortable and refined. Very pleased with my purchase so far, and I can't wait for the rear engine mounts(MS3) I ordered from Mazda to show up to really make the Focus shine.
How is the balance at the limit? Any pronounced oversteer/understeer? (it should understeer less)
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Old 12-24-2012, 10:49 PM   #3
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It seems pretty neutral to me, but again I didn't have a chance to really go nuts with it. Once the slush melts away around here and I have some time I'll take it out on my favorite back roads and see how it does. It's almost feels like this is how the car was designed to be, but someone at ford said "no guys, we need to make this thing as civilized as possible". Probably the same person that made them sush up the intake at a loss of 10hp.
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It seems pretty neutral to me, but again I didn't have a chance to really go nuts with it. Once the slush melts away around here and I have some time I'll take it out on my favorite back roads and see how it does. It's almost feels like this is how the car was designed to be, but someone at ford said "no guys, we need to make this thing as civilized as possible". Probably the same person that made them sush up the intake at a loss of 10hp.
I agree with xwhit. Handling is greatly improved over oem kit. No oversteer at all as far as i can tell. The steeda rsb was a great investment at 115.00$
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Old 12-26-2012, 12:33 PM   #5
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Very pleased with my purchase so far, and I can't wait for the rear engine mounts(MS3) I ordered from Mazda to show up to really make the Focus shine.
I'm curious, as a former 2011 MS3 owner, why do you want the MS3 RMM? Genpu owners all know that the first thing they need to replace is their RMM because it allows the engine to move too much, which means poor launches and shifting under heavy throttle. Is it because it fits the FF and isn't too stiff? On the plus side, it should be very easy to find used ones.
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I believe people want the MS3 rear motor mount because it's stiffer than the stock Focus one and it's not as stiff as a poly bushing sending in vibrations.
So it's a perfect blend in between
Also because it fits.
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^^^This... Plus it's a good basis for playing with inserts.

Some people have already tried aftermarket MS3 mounts and they've been too much (not sure if that's just for the person or for the chassis). If you compare them side by side, its pretty sad what we got from the factory...


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its pretty sad what we got from the factory...
and so do Focus electric got better mount too!

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How is the balance at the limit? Any pronounced oversteer/understeer? (it should understeer less)
I tried this on my Ti without the factory handling pkg. Not sure if other models would act differently due to spring/sway bar rates and tire sidewall differences. My experience with adding the rear only Steeda bar is different from the OP. At normal driving and cornering there isn't much difference at all. At the limits though, I find the nose will tuck under which throws the balance of the car off. During an emergency manuver or quick passing turn-in the car now feels twitchy. I first discovered the problem when doing 75mph on the freeway and an SUV that didn't see me lane changed into me. When I swerved to avoid them hitting me, the car oversteered which I then tried to correct with steering input but then there was a rebound effect that made the car snap back the other direction. My thoughts are if you want to reduce lean during cornering on a street driven car by changing the sway bar rates, a balanced system of both front and rear bars would be best and are now available as sets. I think the stock suspension is probably pretty well balanced as is and errors only slightly towards understeer which it should. Oh, one last comment, the poly bushings squeak even when lubed with the supplied grease. I can't recommend this setup at all and this reminds me I really need to swap back to stock. If anyone in the Seattle area wants to try this for themselves, I'll sell a Steeda rear bar for cheap.
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and so do Focus electric got better mount too!

The current theory amongst the guys here is the Focus electric doesn't have to worry about NVH's as much due to the smoothness of the electric motor. Therefore they can run higher duros...
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