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Old 02-03-2014, 07:12 PM   #1
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2005 ZX5 Rear Suspension Question

I've a questions that hopefully will be rather straight forward. I have tried to search for them but I want to make sure I have my terminology right so I can get the right parts and do the right research.

My wife drives a 2005 ZX5 and the rear suspension is basically shot. I am trying to do research on how to replace it but I am unsure if her car has struts or shocks in the back. Can anyone answer this, and also maybe briefly explain the difference between a shock and a strut?



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Old 02-03-2014, 09:34 PM   #2
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The front of the vehicle has struts, while the rear will have shocks. Struts have a plate welded to the shock body that is a seat for a spring, which is then retained by a top plate/bearing which allows the front suspension to turn. Shocks have only a hole on the bottom for a bolt to pass through and a stud on top that passes through the body with rubber isolaters and uses a nut on the topside. The rear shocks are easy, one bolt on the bottom and a nut on top behind the carpet in the rear hatch area.

As to the hatch struts I believe they are of a standard type, I haven't looked to closely as mine still work so someone may chime in if I'm wron on that one.
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For the actual hatchback struts, there is nothing special about replacing them, fairly easy.

Your car has struts on the front and shocks on the rear. On our cars, the front "strut" has a coil spring that sits on the strut, secured by a upper strut mount that has ball bearings built into it.
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The front of the vehicle has struts, while the rear will have shocks. Struts have a plate welded to the shock body that is a seat for a spring, which is then retained by a top plate/bearing which allows the front suspension to turn. Shocks have only a hole on the bottom for a bolt to pass through and a stud on top that passes through the body with rubber isolaters and uses a nut on the topside. The rear shocks are easy, one bolt on the bottom and a nut on top behind the carpet in the rear hatch area.

As to the hatch struts I believe they are of a standard type, I haven't looked to closely as mine still work so someone may chime in if I'm wron on that one.
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For the actual hatchback struts, there is nothing special about replacing them, fairly easy.

Your car has struts on the front and shocks on the rear. On our cars, the front "strut" has a coil spring that sits on the strut, secured by a upper strut mount that has ball bearings built into it.
Thanks for the info guys, this clears it up nicely! Hatch is something I will definitely tackle on my own, and it's sounding like the rear shocks may be as well.

Would you guys suggest OEM replacement shocks, or are there better aftermarket options?
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Id only go after market if you plan to match them at all four corners and even then I'd only get a performance shock if you were getting new springs too.

For daily driving, i would just stick to OEM replacements (try rockauto for best oem prices), no point replacing the springs unless they are damaged.

If you want an upgrade, the SVT kit is a good price for a nice setup
http://www.c-f-m.com/performancepart...n-Kits-c98.htm
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The front of the vehicle has struts, while the rear will have shocks. Struts have a plate welded to the shock body that is a seat for a spring, which is then retained by a top plate/bearing which allows the front suspension to turn. Shocks have only a hole on the bottom for a bolt to pass through and a stud on top that passes through the body with rubber isolaters and uses a nut on the topside. The rear shocks are easy, one bolt on the bottom and a nut on top behind the carpet in the rear hatch area.

As to the hatch struts I believe they are of a standard type, I haven't looked to closely as mine still work so someone may chime in if I'm wron on that one.
Location of the spring, has nothing to do with whether or not a vehicle has struts. The Mustangs have struts on the front, with a remote located spring. A strut is a shock that also provides a pivot point for the steering, such as the "McPherson strut" suspension used on the Mustangs where the strut acts as a shock and replaces the upper control arm.
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Location of the spring, has nothing to do with whether or not a vehicle has struts. The Mustangs have struts on the front, with a remote located spring. A strut is a shock that also provides a pivot point for the steering, such as the "McPherson strut" suspension used on the Mustangs where the strut acts as a shock and replaces the upper control arm.
Correct, easy way to think of it, if the damper(shock/strut) can be removed without any effect on the rest of the suspension, it is a shock, if it actually supports parts of the suspension, its a strut
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Id only go after market if you plan to match them at all four corners and even then I'd only get a performance shock if you were getting new springs too.

For daily driving, i would just stick to OEM replacements (try rockauto for best oem prices), no point replacing the springs unless they are damaged.

If you want an upgrade, the SVT kit is a good price for a nice setup
http://www.c-f-m.com/performancepart...n-Kits-c98.htm

As this is the wife's DD no need to go with any kind of performance upgrade, we have my MK3 Ti for the more 'spirited' experience. :P I was mainly wondering if there were certain brands that offered upgrades in terms of 'quality' and 'longevity'. I'll check out rock auto though, and then move on from there. :)
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The average lifespan of a shock or strut, all things being equal, will be roughly the same. Worn out springs and rough roads are the easiest way to shorten the lifespan of a shock or strut. If you're only going to be replacing the rear shocks, Motorcraft (OEM) shocks are the best route.
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I was mainly wondering if there were certain brands that offered upgrades in terms of 'quality' and 'longevity'.
The only upgrades you're gonna find for a Focus are performance upgrades, which is a euphemism for stiff. To retain the stock ride/comfort/handling, Monroe SensaTrac is your best option (unless you want to pay your Ford dealer 4x as much for Motorcraft shocks).

Not sure what else is "shot" on your rear suspension. But if I could go back to the days when my Focus was only 8 years old, I'd remove the LCA cam bolt, wirebrush the hell out of that puppy, and then bathe it in axle grease.
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