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Old 11-28-2012, 11:47 AM   #51
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Sigh...I know it's taken at face value but according to Steeda's site it says the install is easy with basic hand tools....

Have you done the FSB on the 2012's and what is hard about it? Tips?
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Old 11-28-2012, 12:34 PM   #52
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Ideally you want neutral handling. Especially in a FWD.

A stiffer RSB will give the appearance of oversteer which is quite a bit of fun. But in a FWD oversteer does not mean the same thing as it does in a RWD or AWD.

Traditionally most manufacturers of fwd vehicles tend to bias towards understeer so they keep the factory RSB rather limp. A stiffer RSB is almost always a fantastic handling upgrade with one caveat.

If the upgraded RSB is significantly stiffer than the front it will negatively effect the handling. Alot.

You want neutral handling. Or at least you probably want it if you want the car to handle better in curves and corners. (want is such a subjective word)

The abridged version is if the new RSB is stiffer than the front or significantly stiffer than stock you will want a stiffer FSB.
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Old 11-28-2012, 01:46 PM   #53
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The Steeda RSB as per Steeda is 100% stiffer than stock and the Steeda FSB as per Steeda is 55% stiffer than stock....does that sound like a decent combo?
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The Steeda RSB as per Steeda is 100% stiffer than stock and the Steeda FSB as per Steeda is 55% stiffer than stock....does that sound like a decent combo?
Do you honestly think Steeda would put out a poorly handling combo???

If you're doing both you won't see the best handling until you also do the springs with dampers.
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I was answering post #5.
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I wonder what FR's sways are in terms of stiffness. They are adjustable at least in the rear.

On track with the squeaking, I seen a member drill a hole and tap it for a grease fitting and modifying the poly bushing to have a grease "groove" in it. Looks like a really bright idea.
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The Steeda RSB as per Steeda is 100% stiffer than stock and the Steeda FSB as per Steeda is 55% stiffer than stock....does that sound like a decent combo?
That sounds like they are shooting for neutral handling. I cant see Steeda pushing out a front rear combo with a weird bias. People who upgrade antiswaybars are typically enthusiasts. Enthusiasts bitch the loudest when a matched combo doesnt work as advertised.

On my gc8 wrx I have adjustable whiteline bars front and rear. Once you find the right settings for the road you're on; you go round corners with a grin.

I'll be doing the antiswaybars on my focus hatch soon enough.
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I purchased a Steeda RSB a while ago and recently heard groaning/squeaking from the rear so I pulled the bar off and relubed the bushings; anyone else have this? I called Steeda and told them about it and they seemed suprised.

While I was on the phone with them I discovered they have a FSB for the 2012's so I bought one; anyone have one and if so thoughts on it?
Just using the supplied grease (and even trying the old teflon tape trick) I had noise issues. I finally just said screw it and used my Valvoline grease that I keep around. I don't use it if I don't have to because it's messy as hell, but it did the job. Even with the cold it hasn't made a noise in months.

I just received my FSB and will be trying to install it sometime during the holidays, time allowing. Also, regarding the question concerning install time, it requires dropping the sub-frame... so factor that in.

Here is a good thread for both bars.

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I wonder what FR's sways are in terms of stiffness. They are adjustable at least in the rear.

On track with the squeaking, I seen a member drill a hole and tap it for a grease fitting and modifying the poly bushing to have a grease "groove" in it. Looks like a really bright idea.
Energy even sells bushings like these and I believe they sell ones that are the same size, so that's an option. Mine don't squeak, so I haven't bought them, but if I had issues that's the route I'd go.
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Old 11-28-2012, 05:28 PM   #59
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I have had the Steeda RSB for a while and had to remove it to relube the bushings as they were squeaking, all is better now.

Bought the FSB today before realizing how involved the install is, I was sent the Ford Handling pack instructions to use for the removal but if anyone who has installed the FSB has any advice/tips please share them!!!!
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Old 11-28-2012, 05:30 PM   #60
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Thanks for the link; do you have the link for the Ford handling pack? It shows how to remove the FSB..here it is:
http://www.fordracingparts.com/downl...htM-FR3-FS.pdf
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