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Old 10-24-2012, 01:14 PM   #11
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Or before they die because their car is driven by apple maps
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Old 10-24-2012, 01:56 PM   #12
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Hyundai's EcoShift, Ford's Powershift (both dry and wet clutch), VWs DSG, Audis S Tronic (dual clutch) and R Tronic (single clutch), Lambos egear and ISR (both single clutch) as well as the units sitting in Ferrari's 458 (dual clutch), BMWs DCT and Porsche PDK...


...ALL SUCK SOME MEASURE OF BALLS at slow driving.

Obviously, things like the PDK, S Tronic and DSG are better since they have been at it a lot longer, but its still very much the same.

So we, and people here who think its the end of the world that the DCT sucks at low speed, need to get a grip. This isn't the only gearbox on the planet with issues and it certainly isn't the only gearbox causing shenanigans for its owners.

But wait, that is being logical. That doesn't work with the internet/
Its funny, if it wasn't the grinding that makes me think it's broken, I'd absolutely love the DCT and how it drives. Sure it isn't always 100% smooth, but it is a lot more fun than any other non-stick tranny I've driven.

Thanks for the list too :) very informative.

I had a few lulz as well.
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Old 10-24-2012, 04:00 PM   #13
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I kind of want my children to drive a (manual) muscle car at least once to realize what they're missing out on... you know, once every car is silent and driven by google.
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Old 10-24-2012, 07:46 PM   #14
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Hyundai's EcoShift, Ford's Powershift (both dry and wet clutch), VWs DSG, Audis S Tronic (dual clutch) and R Tronic (single clutch), Lambos egear and ISR (both single clutch) as well as the units sitting in Ferrari's 458 (dual clutch), BMWs DCT and Porsche PDK...


...ALL SUCK SOME MEASURE OF BALLS at slow driving.

Obviously, things like the PDK, S Tronic and DSG are better since they have been at it a lot longer, but its still very much the same.

So we, and people here who think its the end of the world that the DCT sucks at low speed, need to get a grip. This isn't the only gearbox on the planet with issues and it certainly isn't the only gearbox causing shenanigans for its owners.

But wait, that is being logical. That doesn't work with the internet/
BMW's is the SMG. When they introduced the SMG in the M3, there were some pssd BMW Customers. You should see the price to replace the pump (Its a Wet Clutch Setup) on a M3 with the SMG, and they usually go out at 120,000 miles.
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Old 10-24-2012, 09:07 PM   #15
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My mom has an Audi with DSG. There's a bit of delay when taking off from a full stop but it doesn't jerk or stumble. But then again there are some known reliability issues and you have to change the fluid and filter every 40,000 miles.

DCTs were a great advancement 10 years ago, but regular automatics are catching up on shift speed and efficiency. I had a BMW with the new 8-speed automatic for a couple days and it was fantastic and doesn't give up a whole lot in responsiveness to a DCT.
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This is actually a great article that does talk about the Veloster but goes into detail about DCT.

http://www.sae.org/mags/aei/vehic/10241
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Old 10-24-2012, 09:59 PM   #17
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BMW's is the SMG. When they introduced the SMG in the M3, there were some pssd BMW Customers. You should see the price to replace the pump (Its a Wet Clutch Setup) on a M3 with the SMG, and they usually go out at 120,000 miles.
Well if you want to go technical, the SMG went through 3 iterations before they introduced the DCT.

The last SMG was the SMG III in the E60 M5.

Which from every single review was blasted for sucking in the city. An absolute beauty at speed, just like the SMG II in the E46, but horrible in daily driving.
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I actually find that the Focus DCT works fine at low speeds if you use the select shift mode. In the normal automatic mode, it has too much of a tendency to upshift, then bog down when you you need to give it some gas.

When I'm in slow traffic, I usually keep it in first and have no problem with shuddering or shaking.
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I actually find that the Focus DCT works fine at low speeds if you use the select shift mode. In the normal automatic mode, it has too much of a tendency to upshift, then bog down when you you need to give it some gas.

When I'm in slow traffic, I usually keep it in first and have no problem with shuddering or shaking.
I honestly resort to neutral drops at around 2k rpm.

It just goes, with no drama at all.
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Old 10-27-2012, 01:48 PM   #20
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i like mine so far, have 700 miles on a 2012 hatch sel. i do notice the tendency to upshift to fast leaving it with a bogging down feel. so my solution where i can i just accelerate away faster. lol works great then and fits my driving style better. ive noticed that after a short run with the pedal to the meddle it acts more agressive even after waiting for a stop light. is the cars computer going into a sportier driving mode for a spell? i also am curious to see results from tuners that i hope will be available soon. see if they have better shift points for in town driving.
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