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Old 10-23-2012, 08:13 PM   #11
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But the rear mazdaspeed3 bar fits right?
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Old 10-23-2012, 08:46 PM   #12
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Can u explain? I always thought sway bars only affected lateral forces. I guess i thought tires,wheels, shocks/struts and springs would affect ride quality
Bars do effect handling balance. That is their primary purpose, but they also affect ride quality on anything but the smoothest surface.

When both wheels move together, the bar adds little (theoretically nothing) to both wheel rates, i.e. smooth roads. But if one wheel moves relative to the other, such as a single wheel hitting a bump or pothole, the bar resists that torque and increases the single wheel rate.
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Old 10-24-2012, 07:40 AM   #13
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Bars do effect handling balance. That is their primary purpose, but they also affect ride quality on anything but the smoothest surface.

When both wheels move together, the bar adds little (theoretically nothing) to both wheel rates, i.e. smooth roads. But if one wheel moves relative to the other, such as a single wheel hitting a bump or pothole, the bar resists that torque and increases the single wheel rate.
Guess i never thought of it that way.. but ur right. I don't mind, however, a slightly firmer ride so long as it's not harsh or overly hard. Now onto shocks n struts......
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Just buy some coilovers! One of the best mods I've done to my car.
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Just buy some coilovers! One of the best mods I've done to my car.
that was my first inclination is to replace struts/shocks, then, second, wider and/or lower aspect ratio tires.
I think these are the two easiest to do and will yield the most results for the least effort. agree?

Any opinions on brands? someone suggested just going w/ the ST struts/shocks as the easiest and least expensive way to go.
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that was my first inclination is to replace struts/shocks, then, second, wider and/or lower aspect ratio tires.
I think these are the two easiest to do and will yield the most results for the least effort. agree?

Any opinions on brands? someone suggested just going w/ the ST struts/shocks as the easiest and least expensive way to go.
Nearly every suspension part on the ST is different. The front struts will swap in as some have mentioned/done. However the rears shocks are mounted high on a different spindle and are much shorter than the standard Focus.

Why not just upgrade to the Ti Handling front springs and front/rear dampers? Throw on the summer tires/wheels and voila, a Ti Handling Pkg.
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I would recommend doing all 4 springs.
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Nearly every suspension part on the ST is different. The front struts will swap in as some have mentioned/done. However the rears shocks are mounted high on a different spindle and are much shorter than the standard Focus.

Why not just upgrade to the Ti Handling front springs and front/rear dampers? Throw on the summer tires/wheels and voila, a Ti Handling Pkg.
Thnx for the info on the rears... noted.
as for summer tires. i want to avoid that as i don't want to be changing out tires twice a year. I did that w/ my last care it was a pita. I'll stick w/ so-called hi performance all seasons and so will stay w/ the 17 inch wheels, too.
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First, I want to thank all who have added their input here. It's been helpful.

After doing some research into coil overs (as one contributor suggested) I'm not certain i wanna go that route. A bit pricey for sure and prob. more than i need to just 'firm up' and 'tighten' and reduce sway a bit. I found this site (http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billav...lovers/Part_1/) which was very informative but , frankly, I am more at sea than before.

I prob. just wanna go with 'performance' shocks/struts to take things up a notch and with that in mind, did some on line searching but came up with not much and even more confused as to what to purchase. I already have the 17" contis that come w/ the car and i don't find them very performance oriented so am not opposed to swapping them out for maybe 225/45/17 tires to improve things a bit. I would think that w/ the bigger tires and better shock/struts handling will improve sufficiently. Opinions?

As i said, i just wanna take things up a notch, perhaps not to Ti levels but def in that direction (altho Ti level handling is just fine, too). If i were to rely mostly or fully on just shock/strut replacement do any of you have specific recommendations (and why)?
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I already have the 17" contis that come w/ the car and i don't find them very performance oriented so am not opposed to swapping them out for maybe 225/45/17 tires to improve things a bit. I would think that w/ the bigger tires and better shock/struts handling will improve sufficiently. Opinions?
You're going to be a little bit on the narrow side for rim width with that particular tire if you keep your stock wheels.
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