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Old 10-04-2012, 04:28 PM   #11
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How tall are you? I'm 5'9". I only ask because my mirror has good range of motion, and my seating position would have to be very far from what it is now for me to lose the ability to adjust to see the entire rear window. The post that the mirror is mounted on is adjusted basically in a fully "down" position, to position the mirror away from my headliner console. Would adjusting the post that mounts the mirror to the windshield help you here?

EDIT: Ah, I think I understand now. The reason you can't see the entire rear window in the mirror is because you're seated so far away from it.... What are you, sitting in the back seat?!
Haha, no. I'm 5'11 and I have the seat raised up a bit, and sit rather close. If I sat lower I may have better range of adjustment, but it's just one of those things.

Edit: I could see out the full window previously, but when I did, I was looking at roughly 10' of road directly behind the car with no appreciable distance. In other words, I could maybe see the hood and headlights of a car directly behind me and not much else. I had to tilt it up higher, losing some of the viewing area, to see what I was used to seeing in all the other cars I've driven. Flipping the day/night toggle around helped, but now I tilt down towards the rear seats instead of up towards the headliner, which is what I prefer.
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Old 10-04-2012, 04:33 PM   #12
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Absolutely crazy question I'm sure, but did you did a thorough inspection of this used car BEFORE you bought it?

It doesn't sound like it..........
I did, but some things are easy to overlook when you only spend 30-40 minutes looking over a car. If you weren't looking for the hatch or the roof rail things, you'd probably miss it too. The mirror is a compromise thing that can be fixed easily, but it's currently an annoyance. The smell I attributed to cleaning chemicals, but still hasn't faded. If I had been able to test drive the car for a week before buying it, I might have backed out.

Here is a link to the dealer's photos. Look at #19 and then #3. You can sorta make out the two spots I mentioned, but if I didn't point them out you'd likely look right over them - even in person.

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Car was built on Feb 2, 2011, so you'd think that by now the smell would have gone. I'm thinking some sort of cleaning agent was used that made this smell, so hoping a good shampoo and cleaning will get rid of whatever chemicals they used. It's obnoxious, to say the least.
Check under the hood for a possible oil leak on the Variable cam solenoid seal. I had the seal leaking big time before and the smell was very strong.

I too was under the impression it was a new car smell, but I was wrong. All you need to do is a visual check under the hood with the engine running. If the VCT seal is leaking you will see some liquid on the engine head and possibly see some oil gushing.
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Old 10-05-2012, 10:56 AM   #14
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Check under the hood for a possible oil leak on the Variable cam solenoid seal. I had the seal leaking big time before and the smell was very strong.

I too was under the impression it was a new car smell, but I was wrong. All you need to do is a visual check under the hood with the engine running. If the VCT seal is leaking you will see some liquid on the engine head and possibly see some oil gushing.
Thanks for the heads up. I'll definitely take a look for that.
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I know you bought the car used. Did you get a carfax report on it? With the headlights out of alignment and a chemical smell I wonder if it's been wrecked and they used powerful cleaners to clean the interior for blood or other bodily fluids drinks etc.
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I know you bought the car used. Did you get a carfax report on it? With the headlights out of alignment and a chemical smell I wonder if it's been wrecked and they used powerful cleaners to clean the interior for blood or other bodily fluids drinks etc.
Car Fax came back clean. Just the titling and inspections - no service records. I don't put a lot of faith in Car Fax and AutoCheck though. Too easy for wrecks and stuff to not be reported on there.

There was a scuff in the front bumper cover but nothing I worried about. Probably parked too close to a lamp pole in a parking lot and bumped it. Definitely no signs of a major collision when I crawled under the car, and nothing in the engine bay that made me think wreck, like over-spray.

Popped the hood before heading to lunch today and saw what looked like some oil residue in the recesses around the coil packs/plugs, so I'm wondering if there isn't something leaking like Kaaru mentioned. Definitely mentioning it to the dealer.

Already fixed one thing though. The left hatch handle was slightly away from the body, so I popped the cover off thinking loose bolt and found the bolt was actually missing. Found it inside the rear panel. Took about 30 seconds to fix, but makes me wonder why that bolt was inside the panel and not in the recess under the handle cover.

Gotta love used cars. Always little clues to what the previous owner did.


Edit - figured the panel out. The bolt had been over-tightened at some point and deformed the plastic where it meets the interior panel. I pulled on the left handle yesterday and the bolt popped through. I took out my 7mm wrench and carefully backed the bolt out. Those bolts need a washer to distribute the load across a larger portion of the back panel, otherwise I think this issue will become frequent on whichever handle sees the most use.

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Current list going to the dealer -

Main -
1. Chrome trim on left side of steering wheel flaking off.
2. Headliner rattle on the DS rear of the moonroof opening.
3. Left hatch closing handle bolt issue.
4. Oily residue on the valve cover near the coils (may be nothing, but worth looking at).
5. Hatch offset is rubbing paint off of the top of the bumper.
6. PS and DS tail lamps are starting to rub paint off near on the > portion of the housing.
7. Rearview mirror placement (tilting down at night provides artifacts in the reflection, unlike tilting up).
8. Plastic trim piece on hatch is rubbing paint off similar to tail lamps.
9. PS roof rail trim piece that is warping.
10. Headlight adjustment/aiming.

Misc -
1. LED footwell lamps and the red (heat) portion of the temp knob stay on even when the car is off and alarm is armed. Battery drains are a feature?
2. Can't dim center (radio) LCD.

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So I got my '12 Focus SE HB (manual, 203, sport, winter, moonroof) this past Saturday. I have a few issues I noticed and wondered if they were common and if I should even bother taking the car to my local dealer to check out (bought it from a dealer 300 miles away). Car has 20k miles on it, built 2/9/11.

Here are my issues (nothing too major, but annoying) -

1. Headliner rattles occasionally behind the moonroof. Pushing up on it stops the rattle, so I suspect adhesive wearing out.
2. Rearview mirror adjustment is terrible - can't see out the whole rear window unless it's to look at the road. Needs a longer stalk or more rotation in the mirror's swivel ball/socket.
3. Car has a weird new car/cleaning solution smell to it. Wondering if it's off-gassing plastics, the dealer used some super strong cleaning solution, or a combination of the two. It hasn't faded yet even after 300+ miles of driving with the windows down. If I leave the windows up all day at work or at night, the smell gags/chokes me when I open the door.
4. Idle is a little rough occasionally, like if the idle was set 50-100RPM too low. (remember, manual trans)
5. Radio LCD doesn't dim along with instrument cluster lights.
6. Headlights are aimed a little too far left for me, but no horizontal adjustment is available according to the owner's manual.

Other than those off the top of my head, I really enjoy the car and am having a lot of fun learning its limits. Figure a short throw and rear sway bar are in order, but otherwise can't think of anything it needs to make the driving experience better except more seat time (though a change holder would have been nice). LOL

Disclaimer - I searched for a bit for answers to these, but given the length of some of the threads (137 pages of DCT complaints) and the endless trolling (haters)/responses I've sifted through, I gave up and decided to start my own thread. If you don't like it, sorry, but please save us all the time and keep your complaints to yourself.
Hey Pablo, I almost bought your car a couple weeks ago. LOL They sent me pictures of it and refused to give any money off for the bumper scuff, so I ended up buying the exact same spec car new in Nashville, just Candy Blue instead of Kona. Kona is really nice looking on the Focus.

For the rattle, I just stuck a piece of foam under the headliner right behind the sunroof. The rattle went away. My car is brand new and was just built a few months ago and rattled. I think the adhesive doesn't bond properly from the factory.

Mine also has the rough idle when the A/C is off. I've read there's a TSB that includes a reflash that increases the idle speed, so you might want to look into that. I'm gonna address mine at my first oil change.
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Hey Pablo, I almost bought your car a couple weeks ago. LOL They sent me pictures of it and refused to give any money off for the bumper scuff, so I ended up buying the exact same spec car new in Nashville, just Candy Blue instead of Kona. Kona is really nice looking on the Focus.

For the rattle, I just stuck a piece of foam under the headliner right behind the sunroof. The rattle went away. My car is brand new and was just built a few months ago and rattled. I think the adhesive doesn't bond properly from the factory.

Mine also has the rough idle when the A/C is off. I've read there's a TSB that includes a reflash that increases the idle speed, so you might want to look into that. I'm gonna address mine at my first oil change.
Small world, and congrats on the new car! I love mine, just want to get these little things fixed.

Edit: I thought about fixing things like the headliner myself, but I wanted a car with a warranty for a reason. I've done too many repairs and rebuilt a lot of project cars in my 20 years of driving... it's time to let someone else do the work for me. :D
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