Stock ZX5 to SVT Suspension, alignment question - Ford Focus Forum, Ford Focus ST Forum
Ford Focus Forum
HomeContact UsAbout UsGalleryDiscussion ForumsMarketplace


Go Back   Ford Focus Forum, Ford Focus ST Forum > Ford Focus Tech Discussions > Brakes, Suspension & Body Chassis

Brakes, Suspension & Body Chassis The place to go for answers on brakes, suspension, camber, alignment and more.

Search This Forum | Image Search | Advanced Search    
Ford Focus Tire & Wheels FocusFanatics Merchandise

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-19-2012, 08:19 AM   #1
GreySkorpion
saved from the grave
 
GreySkorpion's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Fan#: 94674
Location: B'game, KS
What I Drive: 2004 LG ZX5 2.3D

Posts: 6,079
FF Reputation: 11 GreySkorpion Great Standing Member
Buy-Sell-Trade Rating: (5)
Stock ZX5 to SVT Suspension, alignment question

Okay so I installed the SVT suspension, all new parts on my 2004 ZX5, and there seems to be major negative camber on the rears. Will a regular alignment cure this or will I have to buy the adjustable bolts?? I have always read they could get it in alignment fine with this mild drop (yet I have read camber is NOT adjustable on the rears), I am requesting the shop I take it to, to give me -1.0 degree of camber and .04 in. of toe in.

I just don't want to take it in, only to be told they cant align it to my specs and have to wait on bolts to come it, grind off the old bolts, and go get an alignment. I have new tires showing up soon. Thanks


GreySkorpion is offline  
    Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 09-19-2012, 11:17 AM   #2
Geezer
Focus Fanatic
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Fan#: 1427
Location: Westminster, CO
What I Drive: 99 miata, 05Mazda6, 09GTI, 12Imprez

Posts: 8,023
FF Reputation: 141 Geezer Excellent Standing Member Geezer Excellent Standing Member
Buy-Sell-Trade Rating: (0)
You're correct in that camber is non adjustable. However, up to -1.5 degrees works fine in the rear with no more than .04 inches of toe-in. Bolts are the cheapest adjustment devise and work fine when properly installed. Don't use visual appearance as a determination as to how much camber you have. Even -1.0 degrees of camber is readily visible.
Geezer is offline  
    Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2012, 11:43 AM   #3
GreySkorpion
saved from the grave
 
GreySkorpion's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Fan#: 94674
Location: B'game, KS
What I Drive: 2004 LG ZX5 2.3D

Posts: 6,079
FF Reputation: 11 GreySkorpion Great Standing Member
Buy-Sell-Trade Rating: (5)
Well as far as camber goes, I am using the fact I only lowered the rear with new SVT shocks and springs and within 5K miles, the tires were toast, fronts are still fine and I didnt touch the suspension up there. Would out of toe make them wear evenly across but abnormally fast?
GreySkorpion is offline  
    Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2012, 05:31 PM   #4
Geezer
Focus Fanatic
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Fan#: 1427
Location: Westminster, CO
What I Drive: 99 miata, 05Mazda6, 09GTI, 12Imprez

Posts: 8,023
FF Reputation: 141 Geezer Excellent Standing Member Geezer Excellent Standing Member
Buy-Sell-Trade Rating: (0)
Quote:
Originally Posted by f250lightnin View Post
Well as far as camber goes, I am using the fact I only lowered the rear with new SVT shocks and springs and within 5K miles, the tires were toast, fronts are still fine and I didnt touch the suspension up there. Would out of toe make them wear evenly across but abnormally fast?


Excessive toe either in or out can easily cause excessive tire wear. Excessive toe and camber combined will eat tires.
Geezer is offline  
    Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2012, 08:39 PM   #5
GreySkorpion
saved from the grave
 
GreySkorpion's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Fan#: 94674
Location: B'game, KS
What I Drive: 2004 LG ZX5 2.3D

Posts: 6,079
FF Reputation: 11 GreySkorpion Great Standing Member
Buy-Sell-Trade Rating: (5)
I thought excessive negative camber would eat the inside edge of the tire, not evenly across? I figured a bad toe setting would eat across the whole tire, resulting in accelerated, but even wear. Which is why I am hoping to have a bad toe setting to avoid camber bolts and a follow up alignment. Its that or put the stock springs on and be happy with 4x4 status........
GreySkorpion is offline  
    Reply With Quote
Old 09-20-2012, 12:07 AM   #6
Geezer
Focus Fanatic
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Fan#: 1427
Location: Westminster, CO
What I Drive: 99 miata, 05Mazda6, 09GTI, 12Imprez

Posts: 8,023
FF Reputation: 141 Geezer Excellent Standing Member Geezer Excellent Standing Member
Buy-Sell-Trade Rating: (0)
Quote:
Originally Posted by f250lightnin View Post
I thought excessive negative camber would eat the inside edge of the tire, not evenly across? I figured a bad toe setting would eat across the whole tire, resulting in accelerated, but even wear. Which is why I am hoping to have a bad toe setting to avoid camber bolts and a follow up alignment. Its that or put the stock springs on and be happy with 4x4 status........
Yes, negative camber will wear the inside edge. The amount of toe will determine how much and how quickly it will wear. If the tire has zero camber then excessive toe should, theoretically, wear the tire evenly but that's pretty rare. Even at zero camber too much toe-in will usually wear the outside edge and excessive toe-out will wear the inside edge of the tire.

Things like too much or too little tire pressure can effect the wear pattern as well.
Geezer is offline  
    Reply With Quote
Old 09-23-2012, 08:35 PM   #7
felixthecat
w/ my magic bag
 
felixthecat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Fan#: 80663
Location: Renton, WA
What I Drive: '05 Silver Sport Technologies

Posts: 9,501
Points 10,503, Level 68
Points: 10,503, Level: 68 Points: 10,503, Level: 68 Points: 10,503, Level: 68
Level Up 14% Completed
Level up: 14% Level up: 14% Level up: 14%
Forum Activity 100%
Activity: 100% Activity: 100% Activity: 100%
FF Reputation: 59 felixthecat Excellent Standing Member
Buy-Sell-Trade Rating: (0)
Quote:
Originally Posted by f250lightnin View Post
Okay so I installed the SVT suspension, all new parts on my 2004 ZX5, and there seems to be major negative camber on the rears. Will a regular alignment cure this or will I have to buy the adjustable bolts?? I have always read they could get it in alignment fine with this mild drop (yet I have read camber is NOT adjustable on the rears), I am requesting the shop I take it to, to give me -1.0 degree of camber and .04 in. of toe in.

I just don't want to take it in, only to be told they cant align it to my specs and have to wait on bolts to come it, grind off the old bolts, and go get an alignment. I have new tires showing up soon. Thanks
That .040 toe in would be total= both side's max. I run 0 front toe & .010 per side. If you have stock bushing's in front then I'd have a tad toe out up front. Geezer is right on the rear camber as these car's handle great w/ some negitive camber. I'd make sure your tires are at the right pressure & rotate them ever oil change to get the most wear.
__________________
Introduce Mr. Torsen to the mixBigger brakes then you- D23 crew- D-Tech- Sedan Revolution= #131
felixthecat is offline  
    Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks & Social Networks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:18 AM.


Copyright 2002-2014 FocusFanatics.com. All Rights Reserved : Terms of Use : Privacy Policy : Advertise Information

Focus Fanatics Ford Focus Forum offers many fun ways for you to engage with other Ford Focus Owners from across the world. Whether it be about the aftermarket performance modifications, technical how-to's, European tuned suspension or awesome fuel economy similar to the Acura TLX or Fiesta ST. You can find all Ford Focus and Focus ST related information here. Join our Ford Focus discussion forums and chat with local Focus enthusiasts in your area.