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Old 09-18-2012, 08:02 AM   #1
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Automatic Transmission problem??

Automatic transmission: Okay so after driving 75 mph on the highway for about 25 miles I pull off to go my normal route home from work, start to accelerate from a stop sign and about 500 feet later I hear a big grinding noise for about 4 seconds then nothing for another 7 miles. As I approach the next stop sign, it down shifts funny, then I go to accelerate and the car barely moves, maybe 5 mph and starts clunking/surging/bucking 100 feet from the stop sign. I pull over and put it in park. I decide to check reverse and it clunks/bangs into gear and moves backward, I then put it in drive and it will go about 5mph again and coast into my driveway. Now it will not move in reverse or low1 or low2 and hardly goes forward in drive. I jacked up the front end and both wheels spin freely by hand and in drive they spin forward, but i hear what sounds like metal pieces bouncing around in the transmission. Any ideas ??? Solenoid break off? Fluid level looks a little low but I am afraid to run it through the gears after a warm up and recheck the fluid level.


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Old 09-18-2012, 12:20 PM   #2
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Unfortunately, the manual really just gives diagnostics for plugging a computer into the car and forcing output states.

The symptom chart lists "Not all gears present" as a failure mode for any of the shift solenoids: SSA, SSA, SSC, SSD, SSE
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Well I took off the pan and upon inspection, there are metal shavings all over the magnet and on top of one side of the filter, I took off the valve body and there are shavings on it as well.




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That sucks, that's no simple solenoid issue.
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Yeah, total rebuild or sell the car needing a new trans, what to do, what to do.......
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I see used ones in classifieds for $400 and less all the time.
That's my plan when my Focus craps the ATX, low mileage junkyard swap.
It's not a whole lot more work than doing a clutch job, if yoiu had a manual.
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The 2.3 uses a different trans, which usually sells or around $700, I dont have the ability I dont think to do a swap, so there is another $500. I will pay $2200 for a 3 year warrantied one before I will $1200 and no warranty. Thanks for the help man.
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The 2.3 uses a different trans, which usually sells or around $700, I dont have the ability I dont think to do a swap, so there is another $500. I will pay $2200 for a 3 year warrantied one before I will $1200 and no warranty. Thanks for the help man.


Posted via FF Mobile According to who? The 2.3l uses the same autotragic atx 4F27E as the zetec. The SPI uses something slightly different. But yes your trans is done, same thing happened to mine.
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Is the 4F27E the same as a 3S4P-AA??
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Is the 4F27E the same as a 3S4P-AA??
*I think* the difference is the 3S4P-AA is just a 4F27E with upgraded forward clutch plates for a little better longevity. Any 4F27E installed after -03 behind a Duratec should be a 3S4P-AA.

You will want to check before using this info to buy parts.
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