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Old 09-24-2012, 03:36 PM   #91
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SEL is gone for 2013. It has been replaced by the SE with the Appearance Package.

Maybe check SE base and SE with the Appearance Package.

Doh, you are correct sir....... that one slipped my mind.
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Old 09-24-2012, 03:55 PM   #92
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OK, then you must be one of the lucky ones with a '13 and LED's, because they have been removed.
Or unlucky ones, I don't care for the lack of color rendering caused by the LEDs. Incans render colors much better. And it's not like you really need the dome lights to be super efficient.. Advancements in LEDs are allowing them to be very bright AND render colors much better, but those have not become the standard yet. if the LED's were High CRI that would be another story, but the washed out color the white dome lights provide isn't very nice anyways.
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Old 09-24-2012, 04:06 PM   #93
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I'm in a different dealer everyday and the last few that I've been to, had Ti's in their showroom. I've looked at 6 different Ti's and all had interior led's. I'm going to try and confirm with Sel's and see if they have them as well.
Are those '13s or '12s? Builds for the '13 clearly say they no longer have LEDs and as such, mine does not.
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Old 09-25-2012, 11:24 PM   #94
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Today we received a couple 2013 Focus hatches at work, so I thought I'd grab a few pictures as I was leaving.

Titanium:





SE w/ Black Pack:






I know it's hard to see in the pictures, but I noticed that each has in its cupholders little soft inserts to held hold cups in place better. That should be a valuable update.
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Old 09-26-2012, 01:16 AM   #95
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Those inserts work a little too well. Some cups are unnervingly difficult to remove. Nice addition, tho.

Oh yeah, incandescents here too. Wonder if the LED-based housings are swappable.
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Old 09-26-2012, 01:52 AM   #96
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Love that ST-style wing. Didn't know they were coming stock on '13s now. What's with that? I am sad to see the general decontenting of the Focus this early in this generation's life though. Very happy I have a '12 SE with Sport package and 203A. It's got everything I want and nothing that I don't need.

I've got to see my dealer about getting one of those rear wings (not sure I like the 3D carbon one...) provided I can get it colormatched.
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^^ That's with the "Black Pack," which - unfortunately - means that spoiler (along with the side mirrors) is black, regardless of exterior color.

The good flip side is that it also brings the black headlights, fog bezels, and piano-black grille from the Titanium.

If I bought an SE Appearance Package, I'd be looking to retrofit the latter three things myself.
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Those inserts work a little too well. Some cups are unnervingly difficult to remove. Nice addition, tho.

Oh yeah, incandescents here too. Wonder if the LED-based housings are swappable.
^^This. Especially Styrofoam.
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The '13 SEs have the same cupholder/console arrangement as the Titanium now? I wasn't aware of that. Are all 2013 SEs this way, or does that come with a package? Is the S the only one with the fore/aft cupholders in 2013?
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The auto dimming mirror had problems in the 2012 with not staying in place, which is why it got pulled, and the rain sensing wipers are pretty bad at sensing rain, so those features were needing to get pulled.
The mirrors were probably a bad batch; mine was replaced under warranty and now works perfectly and remains in place.

My wipers work pretty well, too. Those were a definite plus for me when it came to picking a Ti. On drizzly days, they're wonderful on the highway - as the rain varies from a mist to a deluge when passing trucks, etc. it's awesome to never have to fiddle with the knob.
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