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Old 03-11-2013, 10:16 AM   #231
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There is no way to know for sure, because MPG is too subjective and contingent upon the weather, driving style, type of driving, etc.

All that can be said is that MOST found an improvement in MPG ranging from 1-5 mpg while others reported none at all and fewer reported a decrease.

Only thing to do is give it a try, see where you are after, as Duane said, 3 tanks. It is such a fast and quick mod that you can swap nearly anytime you want.
Thanx for the info guys. I will give it a try this weekend
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Old 03-11-2013, 10:40 AM   #232
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What do you believe is a realistic change in terms of mileage if there is one?
Honestly I wouldn't expect to see anything, but for discussion purposes let's assume we see a 1% (3-4 miles per tank) increase. That means that if we use 15,000 miles driven yearly at 30 mpg and $4.199 per gallon (non-election year), we would spend $2099.50 on fuel. A 1% increase is 30.3 mpg and would in-turn cost $2078.71, a savings of $20.79 per year that you own and drive the car, and all it cost you was a few minutes of your time.

Not a bunch of money, but it's free money nonetheless. Like I said, this mod is mainly for people running a closed box. I can only speculate the change because I don't have a Steeda. For all I know (though I highly doubt) there could be a negative impact on mileage.

I do a lot to try and boost mileage without spending a lot of money, short of unsafe hyper-miler driving practices. I'm currently getting over 3 mpg better in my Ti with 18's than I did in my SEL with 17's. That translates to approx 5 mpg better than when the Ti was stock.

The final disclaimer is that my numbers reflect my car, commute, conditions, and driving style. The best route for me is not necessarily the best for others. The best I can say is to try changes for 3 tanks and take notes as to what works and what doesn't
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Old 03-11-2013, 08:43 PM   #233
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Why did you delete the box? I'd be interested in seeing dyno numbers of a car running a filter with no box to see if you even made any gains. Or at least intake temps.
I still have the intake hoses for the box in place so I'm getting the air flow, I wanted to experiment and see how it did. Honestly I'm not seeing any differences but I'm just an average Joe. I don't have a dyno available or anything to track heat etc.

I'm probably going to reinstall the box and delete the snorkel. Might even do the newmission ram intake. We'll see.
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So its the first tank after doing the snorkel delete. Im also running an open box and deleted the silencer. I have been typically getting around 25 mpg throughout the winter. I do the snorkel delete and im getting 32.5 mpg. I feel like a 7.5 mpg gain is a little much. Anything else that might be affecting a good increase in gas mileage?
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So its the first tank after doing the snorkel delete. Im also running an open box and deleted the silencer. I have been typically getting around 25 mpg throughout the winter. I do the snorkel delete and im getting 32.5 mpg. I feel like a 7.5 mpg gain is a little much. Anything else that might be affecting a good increase in gas mileage?
Temperature, fuel grade, winter mix, mpg gods?


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So its the first tank after doing the snorkel delete. Im also running an open box and deleted the silencer. I have been typically getting around 25 mpg throughout the winter. I do the snorkel delete and im getting 32.5 mpg. I feel like a 7.5 mpg gain is a little much. Anything else that might be affecting a good increase in gas mileage?
Is that after an entire tank? 7.5 mpg is way more than you would see through the snorkel delete in conjunction with an aftermarket drop-in filter. I don't know exactly when the gas stations swap back to summer blend fuels, but even with that you would probably still have to have altered your driving style some.

How many miles are on your car? If you're under 1k, break-in is also a contribution (or if you are within 3 tanks of a master-reset).
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i'd run it for a few tanks to get a more accurate reading on the MPG (or L/100KM) reading.
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A few people have asked for a quick how-to for this, so I'll try to post up something visual. I don't have my snorkel anymore to show you, but when you pull back the black plastic you will see the difference between my pics and stock.

First you must pull the four push-pins out of the plastic where it attaches to the radiator support (just forward of the two intake runners) Also, I would slide the hood release out of it's holder where it makes the 90 bend. This will help you pull back the shroud.


After you pull back the shroud, you will see the snorkel on your car that is not in this pic. There are two push-pins on the drivers side and another push-pin on the passenger side. They are a little difficult if it's just you, fyi.


After you remove the snorkel you will see the plastic piece that keeps air directed to the radiator from under the whiskers. I only cut my drivers side (evidenced by the fingers), though others have cut both sides and some have even cut the whole top section. The only way I know to remove this (so far) without cutting is to remove the entire bumper cover.


Hopefully this helps. I would've set my snorkel in to show, but it went the way of the circular file. This is a mod that would never need to be reversed because incoming water would have to travel vertically 1-2" to get in the plenum, and dealerships won't be popping the top cover to verify it is installed.

At a minimum, the snorkel must be removed for the additional hp/tq of an aftermarket drop-in air filter.

Edit: All of these pics are with the front of the car on the bottom. Sorry, that's just how it came out.

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did you cut the rubber flap below the snorkel or did you cut the plastic on the car between the whiskers and the hood?
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did you cut the rubber flap below the snorkel or did you cut the plastic on the car between the whiskers and the hood?
I cut the rubber flap on mine- not the plastic. Others removed the entire rubber piece altogether.
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I cut the rubber flap on mine- not the plastic. Others removed the entire rubber piece altogether.
awesome exactly what i did.. thanks for answering my question
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