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Old 09-06-2012, 07:01 PM   #11
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Really? So in the 100,000+ sales you know for a fact that there was no discussion of the DCT?
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Old 09-07-2012, 10:13 AM   #12
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What do you guys think about this automatic trans? its not very smooth at times, and i feel like the break is linked to the idle some how as well. like if you stop on a hill and slowly let the break out a little, it will roll back, and if you let the break out all the way, it will pull forward. I haven't noticed this in any other car except the 2012 focus. How do you feel about it?
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You know, I personally love that Ford has been on the cutting edge of several technologies. The DCT (not first, but first to a mass market compact, or a close second if you count the VWs), MFT, self-parking, city stop feature, you name it. Being on the cutting edge means breaking a few eggs here and there, but they will be rewarded in the long run and I applaud them for being gutsy and trying.
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If Ford were "Gutsy" ,they would do like GM and Saturn did a few years ago when they had a 30 days full satisfaction warranty.New tech is good when it,s done right.When it's sold half baked ,it's the customer who's stuck with the bill when things go wrong.
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It is not an automatic, it is a computer automated dual clutch six speed manual transmission. Nothing weird about that. Weird is expecting it to act like a hydromatic fluid torque converted auto. Just search DCT and you will find months worth of reading on the subject, including everyone's gripes, misunderstandings, and mechanical issues/failures.
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I'm not going to fight via Internet. All I'm saying is this is a very discussed topic which is covered many of times in other threads.
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...Ford divides their transmissions between manual- you change gears, and automatic - the transmission change the gears. Logical division, then you look at the specs and ask questions. Seems natural to me.
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Old 09-07-2012, 10:38 AM   #13
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It is not an automatic, it is a computer automated dual clutch six speed manual transmission. Nothing weird about that. Weird is expecting it to act like a hydromatic fluid torque converted auto. Just search DCT and you will find months worth of reading on the subject, including everyone's gripes, misunderstandings, and mechanical issues/failures.
Technically yes it's a dual clutch automated manual. You are correct.

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The problem is that Ford markets it as an automatic transmission.
It shifts the car automatically for the driver. That sounds automatic to me. Which do you think appears more appealing from a marketing point of view... Automatic Transmission, or Dual-Clutch Automated Manual Transmission... the second one is sure to confuse buyers who don't know what it is.

VW still markets their DSG as an automatic yet it too is a dual-clutch automated manual gearbox.

It's the same idea, it shifts automatically, it's still an AUTOMATIC transmission. You throw the word manual in when you're trying to market an automatic option and you get confusion

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this is my point exactly. The dealer doesn't explain any of this so i assumed it was a normal automatic. i just did a lot of reading about the DCT and now am a lot more aware of how it works. But im still curious about what other people think of this. There seems to be a lot of positives and negatives about it.
The dealership isn't required to explain any of this. It's still an automatic transmission. Sure it would be nice if they mentioned it up front, but again, some do some don't they don't HAVE to do it. It's still an automatic and if you do your homework prior to buying you know what you're in for.

While I do agree that on the website and at the dealership they should be more up front in adding the fact that it IS a dual-clutch automated manual, at the end of the day it's still an automatic transmission. It's just a different type. Just because it's actually an automated manual doesn't mean it's not automatic, obviously it is, since you don't have to shift it yourself.
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Old 09-07-2012, 01:45 PM   #14
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The fighting about this is intense. Let's face it... when a lot of us bought the car and drove it for months it didn't make any noises, grinding, etc. It was sold as an "automatic" that gets "great mpg" because of a new technology. We may have missed the mark on doing a ton of research on this "new technology" but regardless the car we test drove was way different from the car we drive now. Or at least it is in my case. So back off of people. It's not uneducated drivers, or bad drivers... it's bad advertising on Ford's behalf and shady service.
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Old 09-07-2012, 03:39 PM   #15
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If your dealer said it was an auto, bad on them.

My dealer made it perfectly clear it was a DCT, I already knew but I was nice to know that they did.

DCTs are superior in any way to a torque converter. Jitteriness at low speed is fine seeing as how EVERY DCT on the market kinda doesn't like low speeds
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Unfortunately, I see immaturity sometimes rears it's ugly head when I read some of the posts here
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