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Old 06-21-2014, 11:25 AM   #1
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05 focus Wagon, 5sp manual, Duratec engine thoughts?

I'm thinking about purchasing a focus wagon with the trim options listed in the title. The car already has 100k miles on it. I really want something that will give my wife and baby reliable transportation for another 100k miles or so...

Is there anything I should know about this engine transmission combo?? Car is $6k from a dealer.. Seems like a lot to pay for a car with 100k miles on it... But i cant really find anything else with this kind of fuel economy and cargo space in this price range.


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Old 06-21-2014, 12:07 PM   #2
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It is a stick which is rare. Main thing is the intake manifold tumble flaps. Might as well say your going to replace the i/m. Other then that its similar to other used cars. I asume its a SE edition? I'd also add a sri or a cai to start with. You could pound him down saying its a stick vs a auto/trans. Hows the rest of it look like?
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Old 06-21-2014, 12:14 PM   #3
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It does seem a lot, but you also have to remember that dealerships have to pay for things just like the rest of us. So they mark up the vehicles in order to make some money on it to pay their bills. I did a search on www.kbb.com and www.nada.com and they both came up with estimates that are close to the price that you stated. The MTX-75 5-speed transmission is nearly bulletproof as well as the Duratec motor. There are going to be small problems here and there of course because it is an older vehicle and things tend to wear out over the years and mileage. If in any case, you can always negotiate the price down if you think it is unfair.

Also, are you referring to the dealership as in a Ford, Toyota, GM type of dealership? Or one of those small Pay-Here type of car lots? If you are getting it from a major car dealership it is more than likely inspected over before being put out on the lot. A lot of times they offer used vehicles with limited warranties.
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I do like the stick over the automatic.
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The trim level is a ZTW, and the vehicle is actually really clean, and at an official dealer.

My biggest issue has been finding manual transmissions in these vehicles. There is one on craigslist right now with fewer miles, and $2k cheaper but it is an auto.

Part of me just wants to break down and buy an auto. How are the auto transmissions as far as longevity goes? Is there anyone running 200k+ miles on the original auto transmission?
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If its clean & runs great w/ no issues, & you like the car, I'd pound the sales guy down & say its a stick & theres a deduct of a few hundred dollars for that. He doesn't need to know you like the stick version. The ztw is the top model for the wgn. It does have 100,000 miles so you could ask about a used car inspection & how it went= How much brakes are left, ect. More likey it'll need struts/shocks, plugs, fuel filter, drive belt & being a '05 a intake filter. Later on it'll need a clutch & i/m. The stick is going to be more fun & involve you driving wise & a little more mpg.
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My wife and I both drive stick shift escorts now. I would like to upgrade us both to a Focus eventually. I think with the baby she wouldn't really mind having a little simpler driving experience...

However, I haven't seen the evidence that the autos can go the distance mileage wise compared to the manual. I could be wrong, if anyone could provide insight on that please chime in!

and what is an i/m, sri, and cai?
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Just to add the d-tech motor is a little more flexable= has more torque. So you wouldn't need to shift as much. Its your call. I'm sure there are other cars out there, like you find w/ auto's vs sticks.
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I personally didnt have a auto in my '07 but i had the 5 spd and duratec engine and it was a great car. Never had a single issue. I have a friend who has a 2004 so its the Mk1 body style but it has the duratec enine and auto transmission and he is pushing 240,000 miles on it and the transmission is still running great. Everything is orignal on that car. the only issue he had was recently the passenger side heated seat caught fire. Mechanicaly though he has had ZERO problems with it. I'm pretty positve he has only changed the fluid in the transmission one time too. All he does is regular oil changes. These cars are pretty much bulletproof.
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Wagon with Duratec & 5spd is the Unicorn many are looking for, as others mentioned the manual is usually cheaper even if us enthusiasts like it better.

i/m is intake manifold, just when that wears out is a question - it's about the only wear item that can be mentioned for the engine.

sri/cai are different styles of replacement intakes/air filters for replacement/performance - not something that would need to be done.

I like my '04 Duratec 5spd, and it was def. cheaper than automatic versions when I bought it used.
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