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Old 09-08-2012, 11:51 PM   #21
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I'm going to go the winters route, my question is about the TPMS. If I don't have them in the steelies, will I have a constant low pressure warning? Also I've seen the sensors on eBay, are they plug and go? If I get them installed on my winters will they work automatically, or do you need to sync them somehow with the system?
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Old 09-09-2012, 09:24 PM   #22
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I took out my spare to free up the space, havent looked back yet. That is until I need to put on the spare. In that case I will have to have CAA (AAA) or Ford come and tow me.
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I've heard a lot of complaints about the full size spare taking up a lot of room. 17's ride a lot better, are cheaper to replace, and give you a better turning radius. Its your money to blow though...
Cheaper? Dear god the increased cost on Michelin PS tires, fairly aggressive summer tires, is going to murder me on a 30k car...

Ride better? The Ti already has harder suspension then the other models, the 18s aren't much worse.

Turning radius? The 2 feet will kill you?

For 550 bucks the 18" handling upgrade is a steal. Especially since you get revamped suspension.

Who are you to criticize how people spend their money?
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I'm going to go the winters route, my question is about the TPMS. If I don't have them in the steelies, will I have a constant low pressure warning? Also I've seen the sensors on eBay, are they plug and go? If I get them installed on my winters will they work automatically, or do you need to sync them somehow with the system?
Yes and no I guess. I got the sensors in my winters so I can't speak from personal experience but one of the sales guys at the dealership I go to got his winters without the sensors. He keeps his car in his garage which is also where he stores his summers. Apparently if you are in close enough proximity on a regular basis you don't see the warning. He said he never saw it after swapping out at first but he was just going to work, running errands, etc. but always ended up back at his garage every night. When he took a road trip with his family to Canada, he said it did go off after a while (but, though he told me, I forgot how long until he said it happened).

New sensors do need to be reset to the car when the tires are swapped. If the dealer swaps your tires they can easily do this. If you swap them yourself there is a tool you can buy that will reset it. I think it is about $120 but not totally sure.
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Old 09-10-2012, 10:32 AM   #25
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I have winter tires, on steelies, without the TPMS. It is 100% worth it for me, knowing my wife and yet-to-be-born daughter have condition specific tires keeping them safer. Plus, the additional $550 cost for steel wheels, caps, and winter tires is only $50 more than my insurance deductible. Driving in the snow with PS3s is a terrible plan.
No doubt. I have been running all-seasons on my cars for the last almost 20 years. I haven't had a dedicated set of winters on a car in a long time but since I got the 18s with my Focus I decided to go with a set for this car. I had forgotten how much better they really are and really appreciated this past winter.
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Yes and no I guess. I got the sensors in my winters so I can't speak from personal experience but one of the sales guys at the dealership I go to got his winters without the sensors. He keeps his car in his garage which is also where he stores his summers. Apparently if you are in close enough proximity on a regular basis you don't see the warning. He said he never saw it after swapping out at first but he was just going to work, running errands, etc. but always ended up back at his garage every night. When he took a road trip with his family to Canada, he said it did go off after a while (but, though he told me, I forgot how long until he said it happened).

New sensors do need to be reset to the car when the tires are swapped. If the dealer swaps your tires they can easily do this. If you swap them yourself there is a tool you can buy that will reset it. I think it is about $120 but not totally sure.
I believe tire rack has two, one for 40 and a Ford specific one for closer to 100 , prices may have changed since I checked.

TPMS, ugh. All I can say. Annoying on the Focus, glad that I don't have them on my Veloster
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New sensors do need to be reset to the car when the tires are swapped. If the dealer swaps your tires they can easily do this. If you swap them yourself there is a tool you can buy that will reset it. I think it is about $120 but not totally sure.
Strangely enough, I never had to re-key the new sensors in my summer wheels to the car, even though I bought the Ford TPMS sync tool. I've never seen my TPMS light come on, and my winter (original OEM tires/wheels) aren't even stored on my property.

Perhaps I got lucky and they're on the same exact frequency. Either that, or my TPMS system doesn't work (which doesn't bother me at all, because I hate TPMS systems). I really couldn't say. Probably just an isolated case, though.
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Strangely enough, I never had to re-key the new sensors in my summer wheels to the car, even though I bought the Ford TPMS sync tool. I've never seen my TPMS light come on, and my winter (original OEM tires/wheels) aren't even stored on my property.

Perhaps I got lucky and they're on the same exact frequency. Either that, or my TPMS system doesn't work (which doesn't bother me at all, because I hate TPMS systems). I really couldn't say. Probably just an isolated case, though.
Well, like I said, I'm not speaking from experience but just from what this guy told me. I agree with you and MyThIc3LiTe though. The TPMS concept drives me nuts and I am perfectly content just giving my tires a quick visual inspection before hopping in the car and taking off. If they have a problem then I'll see it. If I run over something and get a flat while driving, I'll certainly know it as well and don't need and obnoxious tone and/or dash light to tell me!
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Well, like I said, I'm not speaking from experience but just from what this guy told me. I agree with you and MyThIc3LiTe though. The TPMS concept drives me nuts and I am perfectly content just giving my tires a quick visual inspection before hopping in the car and taking off. If they have a problem then I'll see it. If I run over something and get a flat while driving, I'll certainly know it as well and don't need and obnoxious tone and/or dash light to tell me!
When I took delivery of my Veloster, I almost cried tears of joy when I realized it doesn't have TPMS.

That is less costs overall, less headaches when the system eventually breaks and just less shenanigans overall.

I see the place for TPMS, but I lose my mind when I need to spend some 150-200 bucks for a new set. Or 50 cents on electrical tape for the winter months.
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