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Old 08-15-2012, 03:34 PM   #21
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There've been several posts in the past about people gunning it across a busy street, something like this happens, and they poop their pants. I'll be keeping an eye on it of course. Ideally this is a condition the adaptive learning takes note of and works to prevent in the future.
I know the time it takes to downshift is crazy slow. However, I have only had one time that it started to accelerate and just fell flat on it's face. It was not cool as the other car behind me almost rear ended me. He was pissed off and honking at me. In the end there are some real issues that are not getting handled. This car has worn me thin. Each drive is an adventure. Will MFT go nuts, will it stall out, will the wipers just randomly go off, will the door unlock when I try to get into it, will the transmission make horrible grinding noises when it shifts? Everyday is an adventure and a constant source of irritation.
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I know the time it takes to downshift is crazy slow. However, I have only had one time that it started to accelerate and just fell flat on it's face. It was not cool as the other car behind me almost rear ended me. He was pissed off and honking at me. In the end there are some real issues that are not getting handled. This car has worn me thin. Each drive is an adventure. Will MFT go nuts, will it stall out, will the wipers just randomly go off, will the door unlock when I try to get into it, will the transmission make horrible grinding noises when it shifts? Everyday is an adventure and a constant source of irritation.
Ha, I guess I've been luckier than some but I wish I hadn't gotten that 12B37 update because it was behaving pretty good before I got it.
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Ha, I guess I've been luckier than some but I wish I hadn't gotten that 12B37 update because it was behaving pretty good before I got it.
Yeah sorry man. I have test driven several of these and they all seemed really good, so I know they can be better. I think each one tends to be different. I am driving a 2012 VW Passat right now while my car is in the body shop after I hit a retread on the hyw. Well let me tell you the DSC transmission in it sucks too! I mean it does not make noises, but it has odd shifting points and the car will not move until you really press the accelerator, when you do it jumps forward and goes too fast. Terrible as far as I am concerned. Makes me like the shifting of my car when I drive it. I just wish mine would quite down when it shifts.
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Yeah sorry man. I have test driven several of these and they all seemed really good, so I know they can be better. I think each one tends to be different. I am driving a 2012 VW Passat right now while my car is in the body shop after I hit a retread on the hyw. Well let me tell you the DSC transmission in it sucks too! I mean it does not make noises, but it has odd shifting points and the car will not move until you really press the accelerator, when you do it jumps forward and goes too fast. Terrible as far as I am concerned. Makes me like the shifting of my car when I drive it. I just wish mine would quite down when it shifts.
I guess there is no such thing as a perfect car....
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I guess there is no such thing as a perfect car....
Agreed. I mean the manufactures are doing this for fuel economy. They are trying to meet federal requirements. So they are trying everything. Even things that might not be so good. Here is how i see it, maybe the same government that wants better fuel economy should do traffic studies and synchronize the lights? Maybe they should not have 10 people sitting at a red light while the light that is green has nobody in sight! I mean if I didn't stop at lights so often my fuel economy would be a bunch better. Just my two cents.
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Agreed. I mean the manufactures are doing this for fuel economy. They are trying to meet federal requirements. So they are trying everything. Even things that might not be so good. Here is how i see it, maybe the same government that wants better fuel economy should do traffic studies and synchronize the lights? Maybe they should not have 10 people sitting at a red light while the light that is green has nobody in sight! I mean if I didn't stop at lights so often my fuel economy would be a bunch better. Just my two cents.
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I've written to local and state government about lights, layouts, allowing buildings to be constructed that create jams and tons of accidents... still, why bother with safety or common sense when that shiny new store will (temporarily) bring in some money (even after all the tax breaks and other entitlements the store otherwise gets)?

But even the cost to add sensors is ridiculous...

But then, they seem to be adding cameras to all these intersections so maybe something actually is being done about the lights and people idling all the doo-dah-day...
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There've been several posts in the past about people gunning it across a busy street, something like this happens, and they poop their pants. I'll be keeping an eye on it of course. Ideally this is a condition the adaptive learning takes note of and works to prevent in the future.
I was slowing down and partially coasting down an exit ramp from the interstate on to the main road after work on the way home, and as the light began to change I had timed it so that just as I got to the light I floored it and accelerated around the corner to test this theory. The one where it will fall flat on its face, but rather than fall flat it grabbed a gear and chirped the tires all the way around the corner. Now I don't wish to tear the tires off the car or burn them up so soon so I likely won't try that again so soon.
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I was slowing down and partially coasting down an exit ramp from the interstate on to the main road near my apartment today, and as the light began to change I had timed it so that just as I got to the light I floored it and accelerated around the corner to test this theory. The one where it will fall flat on its face, but rather than fall flat it grabbed a gear and chirped the tires all the way around the corner. Now I don't wish to tear the tires off the car or burn them up so soon so I likely won't try that again so soon.
Each car delivers its own experience, and each car's experience is subject to change over time (so don't think you're safe!)
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Each car delivers its own experience, and each car's experience is subject to change over time (so don't think you're safe!)
Considering how the people that have had issues usually had them right away, or within the first 1000 miles after an update or from new, I'm not how sure how true that would be to say that it would dramatically change suddenly.

That is unless the clutches were improperly broken in/ run in, and abruptly worn out, a seal failure and fluid leaked onto the clutch pack assembly, or the mechatronic unit was smashing gears together. There are some defective units of course, but are all the issues due to one single cause? No that seems unlikely.

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...Any answer from engineering on my 6th gear shift point question? Jeeze Thomas, this seems like such a simple answer for engineering to give. What is the speed point at which the DCT is programmed to shift into 6th? Answer: --mph.

Reminder: some are reporting that after the 12B37 update the 6th gear shift point changed for the worse (in terms of fuel economy), whereas others are reporting it didn't change after the update.
Nothing as of yet; I'm hoping to hear something soon though. I've seen posts of different things popping up since the 12B37 transmission service and have reported them to our contact.

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Having the same problem after the update. Shuddering from stop until 2nd gear. It is extremely annoying. Ill have to try the battery pull then do all the steps again.
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I would say this issue is affecting my car as well. Noticible clutch slippage/shuddering in first gear only. Sometimes worse then others and sometimes not at all ...therefore intermittent which makes it a pain in the ass to get diagnosed at the dealer, arrrgh.
21500 miles n had the 12B37 update around 3000 miles ago and seems only to be getting worse with harsh, lurching 1st to 2nd shifts as well...
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I have also been having something like this. Only after I back out of the driveway and move it to drive. It does it that one time all day. It is also not consistent. Seems it does it once every now and again. I thought it was the engine sputtering out, but now I am wondering if this is a transmission issue.

I have taken the car in several times for this and they just say there are no codes...
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Please PM me your VIN, mileage, phone number, and dealer information; I'll shoot this over to your Customer Service Managers for review. Are you interested in obtaining a second opinion, xpartmgr?

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...I've written to local and state government about lights, layouts, allowing buildings to be constructed that create jams and tons of accidents... still, why bother with safety or common sense when that shiny new store will (temporarily) bring in some money (even after all the tax breaks and other entitlements the store otherwise gets)?

...But then, they seem to be adding cameras to all these intersections so maybe something actually is being done about the lights and people idling all the doo-dah-day...
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I was slowing down and partially coasting down an exit ramp from the interstate on to the main road after work on the way home, and as the light began to change I had timed it so that just as I got to the light I floored it and accelerated around the corner to test this theory. The one where it will fall flat on its face, but rather than fall flat it grabbed a gear and chirped the tires all the way around the corner. Now I don't wish to tear the tires off the car or burn them up so soon so I likely won't try that again so soon.
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