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Old 01-08-2013, 11:36 AM   #71
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Hi all.. haven't read through all the posts in this thread but...

Does anyone know why some of the 2013's have "flex fuel" badges and some don't? Mine did not have a "flex fuel" bagde. What does this mean?

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Hi all.. haven't read through all the posts in this thread but...

Does anyone know why some of the 2013's have "flex fuel" badges and some don't? Mine did not have a "flex fuel" bagde. What does this mean?

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Flex fuel indicates that the fuel lines/ pump/ injectors and engine calibration are safe to run on any Ethanol blend between 10-85%. The standard car can not run this.

If you have a March 2012 build car you have either a late Job 1 2012 or an early Job 2 2012, and not a 2013 as your dealer sold you. Almost all Job 2 2012 non PZEV (partial zero emissions vehicles) were built to be 50 state emissions compatible and also to have flex fuel compatibile fuel lines and the software to run on the E blends.
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Old 01-08-2013, 12:18 PM   #73
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Flex fuel indicates that the fuel lines/ pump/ injectors and engine calibration are safe to run on any Ethanol blend between 10-85%. The standard car can not run this.

If you have a March 2012 build car you have either a late Job 1 2012 or an early Job 2 2012, and not a 2013 as your dealer sold you. Almost all Job 2 2012 non PZEV (partial zero emissions vehicles) were built to be 50 state emissions compatible and also to have flex fuel compatibile fuel lines and the software to run on the E blends.
Do you know if the previous model year (2012) pzev foci are flex fuel or not?
for example all mk3 foci sold in my state are pzev
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Do you know if the previous model year (2012) pzev foci are flex fuel or not?
for example all mk3 foci sold in my state are pzev
From what I've seen or read none of the 2012 PZEV models were compatible with E85/ Flex Fuel. The PZEV cars had to have a secondary catylast aft of the manifold catalyst.
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Flex fuel indicates that the fuel lines/ pump/ injectors and engine calibration are safe to run on any Ethanol blend between 10-85%. The standard car can not run this.

If you have a March 2012 build car you have either a late Job 1 2012 or an early Job 2 2012, and not a 2013 as your dealer sold you. Almost all Job 2 2012 non PZEV (partial zero emissions vehicles) were built to be 50 state emissions compatible and also to have flex fuel compatibile fuel lines and the software to run on the E blends.
Well now that I know its a 2013 (built 10/22/12), does that mean it is indeed a flex fuel, even though it doesn't say? thx
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Well now that I know its a 2013 (built 10/22/12), does that mean it is indeed a flex fuel, even though it doesn't say? thx
Maybe the badge fell off or is missing. Is your fuel filler "cap" yellow? It should say if it can take E85 on that rim.

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Well now that I know its a 2013 (built 10/22/12), does that mean it is indeed a flex fuel, even though it doesn't say? thx
If the car is not badged as such and the fuel filler neck is black and says something to the effect of: No E20-E85 then no it is not Flex-Fuel compatible, the Flex Fuel compatible cars have a yellow ring around the fuel filler nozzle that says E85/Gasoline

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basically bottom line to me is I'm cheap... if you can get E85 down where it is the same cost per mile or cheaper than gasoline... then it makes sense to use it.. I realize, Ethanol makers and corn growers are in the game to make money and i don't have a problem with that.. the problem i see is, in order to get ethanol down where it can compete with gasoline on purely a cost basis, the corn farmers and ethanol guys arent making a profit anymore because their costs to make it is higher than that... and to make something at a loss just to compete dont make sense.. I "love" ethanol in my drinking glass.. but not my gas.. just on cost basis alone. I'm not against ethanol just to be against ethanol.. ethanol has its place.. and its very useful for what its great at doing.

Mine is currently at 10,000 right now... when i ran my initial test without A/C it was at the mid 6000 mark.. and the A/C test was around the high 8000 low 9000 mark.. My 42 mpg numbers were also after my 17" wheels were installed.. my 47mpg was when still running the ugly 15's...
Do not forget that ethanol producers cannot ever compete with gasoline without the american taxpayer subsidizing them. Without our tax dollars ethanol is not cost competitive
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Mine is a flex fuel car but I'm not sure if I'll ever use it.
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Yeah, mine's not flex fuel. Is there a reason why some are and some aren't? I don't remember it being an option. Maybe it's a state thing.
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