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Old 07-25-2012, 05:34 AM   #21
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The plants I'm an investor in are continuously upgrading to make things even more efficient.
By continuously upgrading you mean continuously being genetically modified?
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Old 07-25-2012, 06:55 AM   #22
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No, the ethanol plants upgrading. Two that I'm in just added extra plates in some part of the distillation column to get even more ethanol out. Evidently a little was sneaking out and into the distillers grain. Companies making the yeast and other ingredients in the process are constantly making them better.
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I've always wondered why CNG isn't becoming more popular. Is it just because nobody trust the public to not blow themselves up?
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I've always wondered why CNG isn't becoming more popular. Is it just because nobody trust the public to not blow themselves up?
it only gets about 1/6 mpg that gas does, so it really only make sense if you have a home pump or a truck that can have huge tanks.
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E85 is supposedly pretty awesome in FI cars running high boost...
It is, Makes tons of power, but for the average consumer it doesnt make a ton of sense yet.
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iDiverse’s New Yeast Gene Boosts Ethanol Production

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Officials with biotech company iDiverse say they have discovered a yeast gene that can increase ethanol production yield by up to 34 percent:

“The gene functions by protecting the yeast against some of the lethal stresses encountered in the bioproduction process,” said John Serbin, Chief Business Officer at iDiverse. “In its current embodiment, it allows yeast to produce significantly more ethanol under the severe conditions of high concentrations of acetic acid and low pH. These critical conditions occur when fuel ethanol is produced from corn or sugarcane and are yet more severe in the newest generation of fermentation processes using lignocellulosic biomass as feedstock. Our constructs have been tested in several commercial yeasts. We believe that they can improve the performance of any yeast facing lethal bioproduction environments.”

Officials say the economic impact of this new gene could be huge, especially for the cellulosic ethanol industry, as well as other applications, such as the bioproduction of industrial enzymes, research reagents, and pharmaceuticals.
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E85 has the potential to increase the power in any engine vs. petrol. However, it does require a few flexible mechanics to be designed into the engine.

Does anyone know if our cars benefit from increased performance when E85 is used?
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we cannot grow enough corn to fully replace oil, if every car used E85 we would run out really fast.
i agree.. using corn for ethanol actually uses more fossil fuel than it saves...
corn needs lots of water (pumps use electricity and therefore, usually fossil fuel to make the elec.), fertilizer (again fossil fuels), and ethanol is caustic so can't be transported by pipe and must go by tanker truck, again using fossil fuel... then we get hit w/ 3/5% poorer fuel economy..
IMO, it's a crappy deal the the consumer must choke down.
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Now Honda seems to be leading the Hydrogen market with the FCX Clarity, I say leading because they are the only company that have running Hydrogen cars on the road.

I believe Hydrogen is the way to go as far as alternative fuels go.
Hydrogen is more of an energy storage medium, not a fuel. Its not something you can just drill for.
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Hydrogen is more of an energy storage medium, not a fuel. Its not something you can just drill for.
byproduct of drilling for natural gas, so it can be gotten while doing other things
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