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Old 07-16-2012, 04:22 PM   #31
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I might have considered a Mazda3 hatch with manual when I was lookng around earlier this spring.....but there weren't any in the area, and the price differential close to $4K) was just too much.
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Old 07-16-2012, 05:05 PM   #32
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Similar. Not exactly, but similar.
Since I am getting a replacement anyways, I figured I should at least shop around a bit and see whats good.

So far I keep coming back to the Focus. If I am up for spending a bit more I can get a GTI or even a used S60R.

But the Mazda interests me, I may have to get one as a rental and see what its like.
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Old 07-16-2012, 06:49 PM   #33
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Since I am getting a replacement anyways, I figured I should at least shop around a bit and see whats good.

So far I keep coming back to the Focus. If I am up for spending a bit more I can get a GTI or even a used S60R.

But the Mazda interests me, I may have to get one as a rental and see what its like.
I will say that the handling is fantastic. That is its forte.
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Old 07-16-2012, 06:51 PM   #34
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At 500 miles we are having random ABS pulsations and a random "clacking" sound from under the hood. Not happy... Going back to the dealer tomorrow to get it straightened out.
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Old 07-17-2012, 03:25 PM   #35
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Well it was a sensor plug loose. Problem solved.
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Old 07-17-2012, 03:26 PM   #36
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The car is coming a long nicely. It is a little rough around the edges, but extremely fun to drive.
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Old 02-05-2013, 08:10 AM   #37
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Thumbs down 6 Months later and getting rid of the Skyactiv 3

Well after owning a 2006 Mazda 3 Grand Touring and a 2008 Mazdaspeed 3 Grand Touring, we had high hopes for Mazda's newest take on their Focus chassis-based 3 with the Skyactiv engine and transmission.

Let's put it this way. Skyactiv is crap. First of all, compared to their Duratec/MZR engine versions (2.0 and 2.5) the Skyactivs keep the great handling, but that is about it. The cars are de-contented to save weight, which makes them come off cheap and bland. The engine, while powerful enough, is noisy and thirsty (their mileage claims are based on their over-optimistic trip computer). The mileage sucks. The transmission is occasionally great and occasionally horrible. It cannot make up its mind. We have had the car back to the dealer with electrical gremlins that appear at random which they have never been able to fix. The car was back to the dealer 6 times in the first month. One time the car just went into free-wheel on the interstate at 70mph and had no forward motion until we pulled off onto the side of the road and turned it off and restarted.

Mazda said that had happened before to others, but after doing it once it never did it again. That was their fix!

I seriously worry that Mazda is going to take a nose dive without Ford's support.

My wife loves the driving dynamics of her Mazdas, so another Focus or a Fusion is out of the question, so she is trading for a new 2.5 liter (still the Ford sourced engine) Mazda 3 Grand Touring. This will be the last year to get the good engine before the restyled 3 comes out with all of the Skyactiv crap.

This has been the most disappointing experience with a new car we have ever had.

We are taking a 2K negative equity loss, but she is do disappointed, and so am I, that we are going to deal with it.

On the bright side, she will have great power.

This is a quote from the Corksport site:

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Baseline Dyno Pull
Before we even breathed on either of the naturally aspirated 2010 Mazda 3′s, we took them for a spin on the DynoJet to get a baseline for the engines. While Mazda claims 167hp@6000rpm and 168lbft@4000 rpm for the 2.5, the results of three baseline dyno pulls show that the car puts down 154hp and 160lbft of torque right out of the box. Conditions were 73F and 51% Humidity.
Gotta love the 2.5's torque.
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Old 02-05-2013, 08:18 AM   #38
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Not bad. I'll look for a stock MS3 exhaust and make a CAI...

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This car finally sounds like it should have from the factory. I almost just chose to drive it home instead of returning it to our customer. Unfortunately my conscience got the best of me, and he drove off excited to test the car out for the weekend. The dyno results on this combination of intake and exhaust were equally as impressive, but dynamically speaking were a bit different from the 2.0L. Where the 2.0L opened up quite a bit at the top end, the stump pulling 2.5L exhibited up to 20lbft of torque gains in the midrange with a consistent 10-12hp gain through the entire powerband. Stock Peak HP & Torque were 158/161, and the intake and exhaust built 171hp and 171lbft of torque.
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Old 02-05-2013, 08:58 AM   #39
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One of the things I really like about the Focus is the lack of brake dust. My prior car, a MINI Cooper Clubman was terrible with that. You washed it, drove it down the street, came back, and there was brake dust on the wheels. And it stuck to the rims. The 18 inch rims on my Titanium are great since they have widely spaced spokes which allow you get the wash rag all the way in to clean the insides of the rims....but its not such big problem since the Focus puts off very little dust.

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i agree w/ you about the lack of brake dust. never any between washings. iyo, do you feel it's due to the materials in the brake pad or the composite of the disc or both?

i ask this cuz my '01 focus never had brake dust (green pads) but at one point in had to have new discs.... even w/ the green pads the brake dust was terrible.
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Old 02-06-2013, 02:12 PM   #40
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Had to register just to briefly share my "2012 Mazda 3 vs. 2012 Focus" story:

I just completed the Lemon Law buyback process on the 2012 Mazda 3 SkyActiv hatchback (manual trans) that I bought at the end of August, because it was accelerating on its own.

Replaced it with a 2012 Focus hatchback w/ the manual and sport package.

My review is as follows: Not only does the Focus have more power and a much nicer interior, it's not actively trying to kill me. Big points for that. The only things I miss from the Mazda are the 6th forward gear on the transmission, and the slightly tighter handling.

If you're curious, here's the report I submitted on Safercar.gov about the problem that gives more details. There are at least a few more people that have filed reports that seem to be having the same problem:

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Date Complaint Filed: 01/01/2013
Component(s): ENGINE , POWER TRAIN , VEHICLE SPEED CONTROL
Date of Incident: 09/15/2012
NHTSA ID Number: 10490670

MY 2012 MAZDA 3 SKYACTIV HATCHBACK WITH THE 6 SPEED MANUAL TRANSMISSION IS EXHIBITING UNINTENDED ACCELERATION. THE SYMPTOMS EXHIBITED ARE CONSISTENT WITH MULTIPLE OTHER REPORTS IN THIS SYSTEM. AFTER DOWNSHIFTING INTO 2ND OR 3RD GEAR, OR AFTER COASTING IN ONE OF THOSE GEARS WITH THE CLUTCH DISENGAGED, THE ENGINE REVS AND THE CAR "SURGES" FORWARD UPON RE-ENGAGEMENT OF THE CLUTCH. WHEN THIS OCCURS, THE ACCELERATOR PEDAL IS ONLY BEING SLIGHTLY PUSHED, BUT THE CAR ACTS AS IF IT HAS BEEN PUSHED ALMOST TO THE FLOOR. DEPENDING ON THE POSITION OF THE CLUTCH PEDAL WHEN THIS OCCURS, THE ENGINE WILL EITHER REV TO 3000 TO 4000 RPM, OR THE CAR WILL ACCELERATE FORWARD UNTIL EITHER THE BRAKE OR CLUTCH PEDAL IS PRESSED. THIS ISSUE HAS BEEN CONFIRMED BY MAZDA AFTER MULTIPLE TRIPS TO THE DEALERSHIP FOR SERVICE. UPON THE LAST VISIT, A DATA RECORDER WAS INSTALLED AND RECORDED 7 SPECIFIC UNINTENDED ACCELERATION EVENTS BETWEEN THE DATES OF 11/13/12 AND 11/20/12. ACCORDING TO AN EMAIL I RECEIVED FROM THE DISTRICT SERVICE & PARTS MANAGER FOR DISTRICT 2 OF MAZDA NORTH AMERICA OPERATIONS (MNAO) ON 12/23/12, "THE CONCERN FOUND ON THE DATA RECORDINGS TAKEN FROM YOUR VEHICLE WERE FOUND TO BE A PCM CALIBRATION ISSUE. MAZDA CORPORATION IS WORKING ON A NEW CALIBRATION FOR THE PCM WITH AN UNKNOWN TIME OF COMPLETION." WHEN I REQUESTED THAT MY VEHICLE BE REPLACED WITH ANOTHER OF THE SAME MODEL, THIS WAS THE RESPONSE FROM THE SAME DISTRICT SERVICE & PARTS MANAGER: "SINCE THE CALIBRATION OF THE PCM IS THE SAME ON A 2013 LIKE MODEL WITH A MANUAL TRANSMISSION IT WOULD NOT BE ADVISED TO TRADE YOU INTO THAT VEHICLE AS IT COULD POTENTIALLY EXHIBIT THE SAME CONCERN DEPENDING ON YOUR DRIVING HABITS AND CONDITIONS." I AM CURRENTLY AWAITING A RESPONSE FROM MNAO'S MEDIATION DEPARTMENT REGARDING EITHER REPLACING MY CAR WITH ANOTHER MODEL, OR BUYING BACK THE CAR FROM ME. *TR
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