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Old 06-15-2012, 01:33 PM   #11
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Old 06-15-2012, 01:37 PM   #12
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wow that K&N CAI is $325 a little steep is worth only a 10hp gain? does it help for MPG?
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Old 06-15-2012, 01:53 PM   #13
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I have the drop-in, which you can get for under $40. The question is about how much hp that will yield over stock. I dont expect anything significant, but I can say that it is worth the money for the reduced lag and driveability.
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wow that K&N CAI is $325 a little steep is worth only a 10hp gain? does it help for MPG?
I'd call that pretty damn cheap for 10 HP out of a 160 HP car. :) I don't think you're going to find amother mod that nets you close to 10 HP for 300 clams.

Some people claim better MPG but I just don't see how that's going to happen. There might be some fraction of an MPG gained at WOT but beyond that I don't see it.

If this K&N filter produces 5+ HP I'm in for one... otherwise I'll probably blow the money for the CAI.
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I'd call that pretty damn cheap for 10 HP out of a 160 HP car. :) I don't think you're going to find amother mod that nets you close to 10 HP for 300 clams.

Some people claim better MPG but I just don't see how that's going to happen. There might be some fraction of an MPG gained at WOT but beyond that I don't see it.

If this K&N filter produces 5+ HP I'm in for one... otherwise I'll probably blow the money for the CAI.
I am up about 1.5mpg since installing my steeda, so it does seem to happen, but i think it is more the extra noise from the intake making me more aware of how much throttle I am using and me driving more lightfooted than the intake doing a lot more in my current setup.
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Typically, I believe more mpg gains are seen by adding an exhaust than an intake; adding an intake simply allows your ecu to add more fuel. This is not to say that you won't see any mpg gains, just that the ratio per hp added is smaller. I did the math back when I put a drop-in in my ranger, and a 5% (ish) gain in mpg would have taken nearly 50k miles to recoup the cost. Our Armada, on the other hand, with a 1 mpg increase will pay pay off a $500 intake in 1 year and then become profitable.

For high mpg vehicles, we just do it for the fun! Buying a $300 intake for fuel savings is akin to paying $20 at the carnival in order to win the $10 prize.
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Typically, I believe more mpg gains are seen by adding an exhaust than an intake; adding an intake simply allows your ecu to add more fuel. This is not to say that you won't see any mpg gains, just that the ratio per hp added is smaller. I did the math back when I put a drop-in in my ranger, and a 5% (ish) gain in mpg would have taken nearly 50k miles to recoup the cost. Our Armada, on the other hand, with a 1 mpg increase will pay pay off a $500 intake in 1 year and then become profitable.

For high mpg vehicles, we just do it for the fun! Buying a $300 intake for fuel savings is akin to paying $20 at the carnival in order to win the $10 prize.
love the analogy, I'll have to tell my wife that one whenever she asks "why?"
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Old 06-16-2012, 09:27 PM   #18
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Quick update, for those whom haven't seen yet. My dyno today yielded 11hp over a stock OEM. Arguments have already occurred, I listed a better description in my thread, Another SGM MKIII build. Something to consider and formulate your own opinion about...
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Not yet, but I promise to post them as soon as he emails them to me.
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