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Old 06-12-2012, 01:25 PM   #21
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I've used my brothers polishing kit - 2 Menzerna polishes, first intensive polish and second final polish, with Menzerna pads on a porter cable sander / polisher. Worked wonders on my black Explorer I bought slightly used and highly uncared for - really brought the deep black back and subdued the swirl marks. Also used it on my wife's Taurus we bought new but had been sitting on the lot for a while and therefore had swirl marks. Again, a noticeable improvement.

Then Liquid Glass as a protectant.

No need to use the Menzerna kit on the Focus yet since the paint was in good shape from the dealer (except for some light clear coat scratches on the hood which I hand polished). But I did clay bar it and used Liquid Glass within about a month of having it.

Not sure if Liquid Glass is worth it - my brother gave it to me and when it's gone I may just switch to Nu Finish which is pretty highly rated. Seems to me Nu Finish every 6 months should protect it just fine.
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Old 06-12-2012, 07:14 PM   #22
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What's this clay bar crap you all speak of?
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What's this clay bar crap you all speak of?
It's literally a clay-like bar that you rub over the paint (with a lubricant such as water or instant detailer) and it shears away surface contaminates. You won't believe how much smoother it is after you do it.
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Better than new after a clay job and my paint was only two months old and it had already collected a myriad of interesting textures;I think I'll clay my car at least twice a year.
I need to do my 4Runner but I'm afraid it might need about 3 kits to clay it with all the crap on my paint that I can feel.

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It's literally a clay-like bar that you rub over the paint (with a lubricant such as water or instant detailer) and it shears away surface contaminates. You won't believe how much smoother it is after you do it.
But you wouldn't do that to a new car, would you?
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Better than new after a clay job and my paint was only two months old and it had already collected a myriad of interesting textures
"Better than new" is the truth with clay bars. But DAMN it's a workout.
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I thought it was going to be harder than it was and running the bar over the whole thing went pretty smooth but the buffing part gave me some soreness and the whole job wash,clay and wax took me a leisurlely 4-5 hours with a few breaks.
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I thought it was going to be harder than it was and running the bar over the whole thing went pretty smooth but the buffing part gave me some soreness and the whole job wash,clay and wax took me a leisurlely 4-5 hours with a few breaks.
Damn, is it really worth it? How often do you need to do this?
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But you wouldn't do that to a new car, would you?
Sure. Even new cars accumulate surface contaminants while in transit or sitting on the dealer lot. Unlike polishing, claying doesn't remove any of the underlying finish when done properly, so there's no risk of over-doing it. It really isn't that much of an effort either, particularly on a newish car.
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But you wouldn't do that to a new car, would you?
Having the Oxford White, I was amazed at what it accomplished.

Also, there is no better way to get acquainted with the condition of your car's paint. You will see every small imperfection caused by tar, bugs and the like.

There were many spots that I thought were small "nicks" that came out easily.

You should latex gloves for the clay job, esp with Griot's. It will stick to your hands and under your nails otherwise.

Should I return to the old adage, already mentioned in this post; "smoother than a baby's bottom"?
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