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Old 06-02-2012, 05:06 PM   #1
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My Focus Rental Car

I always ask for a Focus from Avis. I got a Nov 2011 build SE automatic. My impression is that SE transmission is TERRIBLE. I'm guessing it didn't get any mods. In reverse up an incline it's too jerky. Not nice.

I do like the steering on the rental car a lot better. My April 14th build isn't my favorite on the steering. I give it just a bit of pressure and nothing happens and then a bit more and then it overreacts and goes too much! The rental car pressure and sensitivity is perfect. Maybe te dealer can adjust mine.

Why couldn't they allow the telescoping steering wheel to extend just a bit more?



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Old 06-02-2012, 05:10 PM   #2
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Old 06-02-2012, 05:20 PM   #3
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I do like the steering on the rental car a lot better.
Was there anything changed mid-cycle in regard to steering that you know of?

The rental is an SE (I assume no Sport Package?); what is your car? I ask because, according to an early internal document describing different aspects of the car, mention is made of "revised steering assembly tuning" as part of the sport-tuned suspension included on the Titanium and SE Sport.
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Old 06-02-2012, 06:37 PM   #4
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I ask because, according to an early internal document describing different aspects of the car, mention is made of "revised steering assembly tuning" as part of the sport-tuned suspension included on the Titanium and SE Sport.
I thought that was only with the Ti Handling package due to the larger 18 wheels...
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Was there anything changed mid-cycle in regard to steering that you know of?

The rental is an SE (I assume no Sport Package?); what is your car? I ask because, according to an early internal document describing different aspects of the car, mention is made of "revised steering assembly tuning" as part of the sport-tuned suspension included on the Titanium and SE Sport.
I notice the brand new SE (non-sport) loaner I'm in now has lighter steering than my SEL (bought last August).

OP, I'm surprised you got such an old car from Avis.. I work there, and all our cars are less than 6 months old, but most NA ones are less than 3. It's possible that it wasn't driven all too well... rental cars are generally a poor example of the cars, except that you can see which ones wear down quickly.
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Old 06-03-2012, 12:17 AM   #6
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I thought that was only with the Ti Handling package due to the larger 18 wheels...
The 2012 Focus "Sourcebook" describes the sport-tuned suspension thus:

Sport-tuned Suspension
• Standard on Titanium models
• Included in the SE Sport Package
• Delivers the ultimate in Focus handling performance characteristics with:
– Revised strut and shock absorber tuning
Revised steering assembly tuning
– 16" aluminum wheels with P215/55HR16 tires on SE models

On the titanium with 18" wheels you get the "Titanium Handling Package," which gets "optimized suspension components," whatever that means.
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The 2012 Focus "Sourcebook" describes the sport-tuned suspension thus:

Sport-tuned Suspension
Standard on Titanium models
Included in the SE Sport Package
Delivers the ultimate in Focus handling performance characteristics with:
Revised strut and shock absorber tuning
Revised steering assembly tuning
16" aluminum wheels with P215/55HR16 tires on SE models

On the titanium with 18" wheels you get the "Titanium Handling Package," which gets "optimized suspension components," whatever that means.
"optimized suspension components" that is something i am concerned with as well. I have an SE Sport but when i look up the parts it seems the shocks and struts are the same part numbers through out the focus line. Atleast that is what the parts catalog says at work. I have not tried going to the dealer and checking the part numbers for myself but i would like to see what makes my SE Sport, the Ti Sport, and normal Foci so different.
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Old 06-03-2012, 01:23 AM   #8
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The sport-tuned suspension wasn't listed on the Monroney of my November 2011 SE 203A with Sport Package; I believe they removed it sometime in 2011. AFAIK, only the Titanium with the Titanium Handling Package gets different suspension now.

That said, I'm pretty happy with the standard (touring?) suspension on my car. Body motions are controlled very well and the ride remains compliant.
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I notice the brand new SE (non-sport) loaner I'm in now has lighter steering than my SEL (bought last August)....
Your comment, if it holds for the whole line of new-production Focus' is what I have been afraid of. I think that 'cause Ford and TRW seem to be unable to deal with the as-originally-manufactured (and offered to the public) steering "state-of-tune" parameters (such as steering heft)... they modified it, to attempt to fix the steering problem.

Now I am only speculating, here, but what WAS generally lauded as being a great EPS system, now has been softened (and now becomes an over-assisted and NOT GREAT EPS system) - because they are unable to solve the on-centre / zero assist / "dead-band" issue.

Tell me I'm wrong... I hope I am!
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Old 06-03-2012, 08:02 AM   #10
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Your comment, if it holds for the whole line of new-production Focus' is what I have been afraid of. I think that 'cause Ford and TRW seem to be unable to deal with the as-originally-manufactured (and offered to the public) steering "state-of-tune" parameters (such as steering heft)... they modified it, to attempt to fix the steering problem.

Now I am only speculating, here, but what WAS generally lauded as being a great EPS system, now has been softened (and now becomes an over-assisted and NOT GREAT EPS system) - because they are unable to solve the on-centre / zero assist / "dead-band" issue.

Tell me I'm wrong... I hope I am!
I could be mistaken, it just seems a bit lighter... Could even come down to the tires or tire pressure.

If I'm honest though, I do actually prefer the steering a bit more boosted. My SEL has precise steering, but it puts up too much of a fight in tight turning situations... I miss one finger steering. I also find it to be not very linear, and doesn't recenter too nicely. My car is in having some steering related issues looked at anyways though, so we'll see how it is then.
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