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Old 05-30-2012, 01:00 PM   #101
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What if they apply 12-5-5 then 12-4-13, therefore undoing all these "updates"?
That is *not* possible.
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Old 05-30-2012, 01:07 PM   #102
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learn something new every day! The car drives better now. Period. Actually has solid pull, and doesn't feel like such a turd.
The reason I ask: It doesn't feel good to do quick 1-2 shifts because the rpm never drops and you get a big kick in the pants. I like to rev match for smoother shifts but that takes too long thanks to drive-by-wire

It's all about timing when driving a manual, I'm too lazy to learn new tricks and don't want to think too much while driving. It simply shouldn't be this way.
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Old 05-30-2012, 01:10 PM   #103
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RPM's hanging between shiftes can't just be blamed on the electronic throttle. It has a lot more to do with how the throttle tables are mapped. They can be altered to not be as server. However, you do still have to deal with the dual mass fly wheel. That is more inertia spinning that has to get slowed down.

You have to remember, Ford designed this car so someone's 52 year old mother could get in the car and drive it comfortably. Do you think mom is rowing through the gears? Not likely... if they tuned the car the way we want it... mom would be bring the car to the dealership because "it's jerky between gears."
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Old 05-30-2012, 01:16 PM   #104
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RPM's hanging between shiftes can't just be blamed on the electronic throttle. It has a lot more to do with how the throttle tables are mapped. They can be altered to not be as server. However, you do still have to deal with the dual mass fly wheel. That is more inertia spinning that has to get slowed down.

You have to remember, Ford designed this car so someone's 52 year old mother could get in the car and drive it comfortably. Do you think mom is rowing through the gears? Not likely... if they tuned the car the way we want it... mom would be bring the car to the dealership because "it's jerky between gears."
yeah, what he said
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Old 05-30-2012, 01:26 PM   #105
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I'm with hank. These aren't racecars and the stock flywheel is fairly heavy. It takes that long for the engine to spin down. Rev up the engine up to 3,000 with the clutch pedal depressed and turn the key to off and listen to how long it takes the engine to stop.

The simple solution is to give it an extra half-second before you engage the clutch upshifting into 2nd. If you're driving it like you stole it, then yeah I guess you should be prepared for a rough ride anyway.

You -can- get smooth shifts into second without waiting but you really have to feather the clutch, and I think this is just asking for more wear on your clutch than just waiting a little more time between this shift.
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Old 05-30-2012, 07:45 PM   #106
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Ford designed this car for a 52 y/o granny who like to drive a manual? I call BS no f'ing way. Car and Driver would have mopped the floor with it.

It's not that bad. but rpms should drop faster than this. Granted, not like an RX-8, but still.

I will try this trick of blipping the throttle just before turning ignition off. Nice idea.
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I am hoping they didn't run the entire TSB, because my A/C still SUXXXXXX.
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So I drop my car off this morning at 7:15am.... my appointment isn't until 12pm, but this was the only time I could drop the car off. I decided to give the dealership a call at 3:30 because I had not heard anything from them. The service advise proceeds to tell me that they haven't even looked at my car yet..... Not very impressed.

They were more than willing to get me set up with a rental car. What I find funny is the rental car is going to cost Ford a lot more money then it would have cost to just reflash the damn PCM.

All I have to say is I better not end up driving a Corolla tomorrow because Ford was too busy to honor my appointment time.
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So I drop my car off this morning at 7:15am.... my appointment isn't until 12pm, but this was the only time I could drop the car off. I decided to give the dealership a call at 3:30 because I had not heard anything from them. The service advise proceeds to tell me that they haven't even looked at my car yet..... Not very impressed.

They were more than willing to get me set up with a rental car. What I find funny is the rental car is going to cost Ford a lot more money then it would have cost to just reflash the damn PCM.

All I have to say is I better not end up driving a Corolla tomorrow because Ford was too busy to honor my appointment time.
Its not Ford that didn't honor an appointment, but rather the dealer, which is a seperate entity and apart from selling Ford branded products is not a part of the Company in the manner in which you are describing.
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Its not Ford that didn't honor an appointment, but rather the dealer, which is a seperate entity and apart from selling Ford branded products is not a part of the Company in the manner in which you are describing.
lol you're kidding right.... Out of everything I just said, that's what you picked up on.

Sorry buddy, you just completely wasted your timing typing up that cute lil explanation.
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