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Old 05-12-2012, 10:10 PM   #31
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Well, the problem is that Ford is less than forthcoming when it comes to the suspensions on these vehicles.

Both the regular Titanium and SE Sport used to be specifically marketed with "sport-tuned suspension" as a feature. Parts catalogs reveal a standard suspension (S, SE, SEL), touring suspension (SE Sport, Ti), and handling suspension (Ti w/ handling package). For whatever reason, Ford dropped the "sport-tuned suspension" language from marketing materials mid-cycle, and the assumption was that the cars were de-contented - but owners have continued to receive the touring suspension on appropriate builds (based on cross-reference of part numbers).

The question is, with the introduction of an explicitly sporting model (the ST), the availability of a manual transmission with the Titanium Handling Package, and the discontinuation of the SE Sport Package, where does that leave the SE? It seems like a good time to remove the touring suspension from builds, if they want to.

Or they could continue offering multiple levels of suspension tuning without explicitly informing the consumer of what they are buying - after all, they've been doing it already for how many months? It's hard to predict really without knowing why Ford has been so secretive in the first place.
So do you know what the difference is between standard SE, the Sport SE ("touring") and the Ti in 2012???

I'm about to buy a 2012 SE automatic Hatch with the Sport option and the 203A (that's a mouthful!) ... I think there will be some good deals now on the 2012. I will lose a couple of things, but get a much better price.

In any case, I've been intrigued with the suspension. I drove a "sport SE" and I liked it... I haven't tried the others.
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Old 05-12-2012, 10:16 PM   #32
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Sonic Blue is still listed. In fact, they seem to have added another blue, Performance Blue, which I thought was just going to be an ST color. Maybe that will replace Yellow Blaze as the "sporty" premium paint?

I just noticed that Frosted Glass is out, too.
No Frosted Glass makes me even happier about my 2012 SEL with winter package as a hatch never mind it doesn't seem possible to build a parallel configuration with four wheel disk brakes and medium light stone interior and 16" wheels isn't, available. The appearance package with the 17" wheels and leather sounds more expensive than my well equipped car.
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So do you know what the difference is between standard SE, the Sport SE ("touring") and the Ti in 2012???

I'm about to buy a 2012 SE automatic Hatch with the Sport option and the 203A (that's a mouthful!) ... I think there will be some good deals now on the 2012. I will lose a couple of things, but get a much better price.

In any case, I've been intrigued with the suspension. I drove a "sport SE" and I liked it... I haven't tried the others.
1. S, SE, SEL = Standard suspension

2. SE Sport, Ti = Touring suspension

3. Ti w/ Handling Pack = Handling suspension

The dampers are just valved differently, I would guess (increasing rebound compression from 1 to 3).
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Old 05-12-2012, 10:33 PM   #34
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MFT available on SE as well
-Titanium receives backup camera, remote start, reverse sensing system, heated seats as standard equipment.

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MODEL/SERIES/AVAILABILITY
• Body styles
— 4-Door Sedan S, SE, Titanium
— 5-Door Hatchback SE, Titanium
MECHANICAL HIGHLIGHTS
• Standard 2.0L DI Ti-VCT I-4 Flex-Fuel Engine
• Standard Front Disc/Rear Drum Brakes with ABS
• Standard Front Wheel Drive
• Standard 5-Speed Manual Transmission
• Standard Independent Control Blade Rear Suspension
• Standard Torque Vectoring Control
• Available 5-Speed Manual Transmission on Titanium
• Available 6-speed PowerShift Automatic Transmission with
SelectShift capability (Titanium Standard)
EXTERIOR HIGHLIGHTS
• Standard Active Grille Shutter
• Standard Quad-Beam Halogen Headlamps
• Standard Power Mirror, Manual Fold with Integrated Spotter
Feature
• Standard Remote Keyless-Entry
• Wheel Line Up:
— Focus S
○ 15" Steel w/cover (S Standard)
— Focus SE
○ 16" Steel w/cover (SFE Pkg.)
○ 16" Painted Alloy Wheel (SE Standard)
○ 17" Machined Silver Alloy (SE Appearance)
○ 17" Black Painted and Machined Alloy (SE
Appearance Black Pack Standard, SE Appearance
Optional)
— Focus Titanium
○ 17" Sport Aluminum (Titanium Standard)
○ 17" Polished Alloy (Titanium Opt)
○ 18" Painted Alloy (Titanium Opt)
• Exterior Colors:
— Sonic Blue Metallic (SN)
— Performance Blue (L1)
— Race Red (PQ)
— Ruby Red Metallic Tinted Clearcoat (RR)
— White Platinum Metallic Tricoat (UG)
— Tuxedo Black Metallic (UH)
— Sterling Grey Metallic (UJ)
— Ingot Silver Metallic (UX)
— Oxford White (YZ)
— Blue Candy Metallic Tinted Clearcoat (Z9)
• Available Rear Spoiler, Standard on 5-door
• Available Power Moonroof
• Standard Heated Mirrors with Puddle Lamps on Titanium
SAFETY/SECURITY
• Standard AdvanceTrac® with ESC (Electronic Stability
Control)
• Standard – 6 Airbags
— Dual-Stage Front Driver/Passenger
— Side-Impact
— Side-Curtains
• Standard Child-Safety Locks – Rear-doors
• Standard Tire Pressure Monitoring System (TPMS)
• Standard Anti-Theft Engine Immobilizer
INTERIOR HIGHLIGHTS
• Standard Air Conditioning – Manual with Air Filtration System
• Standard Cupholder – (2) 1st Row
• Standard Power Doorlocks
• Standard Tilt and Telescopic Steering Wheel
• Standard 1st Row – Sport Bucket Seats with 4-Way
Adjustable Headrest
• Standard 2nd Row – Cloth Rear-Seat with Removable
Headrest
• Standard Power Front Windows
• Available Ambient Lighting
• Available Leather-Trimmed Seats
• Available Dual-Zone Automatic Climate Control (DEATC)
FUNCTIONAL HIGHLIGHTS
• Standard Auxiliary Audio Input Jack
• Standard Easy Fuel® – Capless Fuel-Filler
• Standard Rear Defrost
• Available SIRIUS® Satellite Radio with 6 month prepaid
subscription (48 Contiguous States). Service not available in
Alaska or Hawaii.
• Available SYNC® with MyFord® – Voice-Activated
Communications and Entertainment System with 911 assist®
& Vehicle Health Reports. Available on S and Standard on
SE.
Note: SYNC® Services available for a $60 annual
subscription fee
• Available Sony® Premium Audio System with SYNC® with
MyFord Touch® – Voice-Activated Communications and
Entertainment with 911 assist® & Vehicle Health Reports.
Includes SYNC® Services (Traffic reports, GPS based turnby-
turn driving directions and information services). Available
on SE Appearance, Standard on Titanium.
Note: SYNC® Services receive a complimentary three year
prepaid subscription (one phone/primary account)


PACKAGE HIGHLIGHTS
• SE Winter Package
— All-Weather Floormats
— Heated Seats (1st Row Driver/Passenger)
— Exterior Mirrors, Heated
• Interior Style Package – Tuscany Red
— Black/Red Tu-Tone Leather-Trimmed Seats with
Matching Door-Trim Inserts and Front Center Armrest Lid
— Coordinated "Red" Steering Wheel Trim
— Premium Floor Mats
— Coordinated Red Interior Finish
— Rear 60/40 Split Seat with Rear-Seat Armrest
Note: Not available with Interior Style Package – Arctic
White (97L)
• Interior Style Package – Arctic White
— Arctic White/Black Tu-Tone Leather-trimmed Seats with
Matching Door-trim Inserts and Front Center Armrest Lid
— Coordinated "White" Steering Wheel Trim
— Premium Floor Mats
— Coordinated White Interior Finish
— Rear 60/40 Split Seat with Rear-seat Armrest
Note: Not available with Interior Style Package –
Tuscany Red (97S)
• Super Fuel Economy Package (SFE)
— 16" Steel Wheels with Unique Aero Wheel Covers
— 16" LRR Tires
— Rear Disk Brakes
— SFE Badge
— Rear Spoiler
Note: 4-Door Sedan Only
Note: Not available with SE Appearance
Note: Package requires Automatic Transmission (44W)
Note: Package not available w/PZEV Emissions
PACKAGE HIGHLIGHTS (continued)
• SE Appearance Package
— Ambient Lighting
— 60/40 Split Rear-Seat
— Fog Lamps
— Leather Steering Wheel & Shifter
— 17” Machined Silver Alloy Wheels
— Leather Seats
— Perimeter Alarm
— Rear Disc Brakes
— Rear Center Armrest
— Overhead Console
— SIRIUS® Satellite Radio with 6 month prepaid
subscription (48 Contiguous States). Service not
available in Alaska or Hawaii
— Rear Spoiler
• Sony® and MyFord Touch® Package
— Sony® Branded Audio with 10 Speakers
— MyFord Touch® with 8” Touch Screen
— Navigation
— Dual Zone Automatic Temperature Control
Note: Requires SE Appearance (201A)
• SE Black Pack
— 17” Black Painted & Machined Wheels
— Piano Black Grille
— Black Fog Lamp Bezels
— Black Exterior Side Mirrors
— Black Rear Spoiler
Note: Requires SE Appearance 201A and 5-door
• Titanium Handling Package
— 18" Painted Alloy Wheels
— Optimized sport suspension components
— Low profile Summer Only performance tires
— Full-size spare replaces mini spare
2013 FOCUS ORDER COMBINATIONS
• Focus S
— Body Code : P3E
— Order Code: 100A
• Focus SE
— Body Code : P3F (4-Door Sedan), P3K (5-Door
Hatchback)
— Order Code: 200A, 201A
• Focus Titanium
— Body Code : P3J (4-Door Sedan), P3N (5-Door
Hatchback)
— Order Code: 300A

Interesting... So on the SE to get the leather wheel/shifter and rear disc brakes, you have to get the appearance package that will ALSO add leather seats... That will cost more.

Also, I actually wanted 16" wheels... for the comfort ride on my long commute on our poor roads here in socal. The Appearance package puts you in 17" wheels.

I saw someone else comment on the rear seat arm rest. That shows up in the "white" package and the "SE appearance".

Thanks for the info.
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Interesting... So on the SE to get the leather wheel/shifter and rear disc brakes, you have to get the appearance package that will ALSO add leather seats... That will cost more.

Also, I actually wanted 16" wheels... for the comfort ride on my long commute on our poor roads here in socal. The Appearance package puts you in 17" wheels.

I saw someone else comment on the rear seat arm rest. That shows up in the "white" package.

Thanks for the info.
The only way to get 16" wheels and rear disk brakes on the SE is to spring for the SFE package. However, to get rear disks and leather steering wheel and shifter, you have to get the Appearance Package (not to mention those 17" wheels). It looks like Ford does not have a lot of individual options and everything is packaged together.
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Old 05-12-2012, 10:52 PM   #36
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Are SYNC services not standard then? Hmm...
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So Yellow Blaze is out? To be honest, I'm okay with that.
Hey! Don't be dissing Yellow Blaze!



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Nice looking car!
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Are SYNC services not standard then? Hmm...
You get complimentary SYNC services when you buy a SYNC equipped vehicle for three years, then after that, it is $60 a year.
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