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Old 06-20-2012, 12:46 PM   #381
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No grinding is not normal
If "No grinding is not normal", then grinding IS normal. As the Ford rep agrees with you it looks like my DCT is indeed abnormal. Or maybe it's just one of those comma things.
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Old 06-20-2012, 12:48 PM   #382
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all i can say is just keep driving it it has good days bad days but overall it dose work in deed. you want the good mpg dont worry about clicking shutter just drive it if you get it on a good day its a butt kicken 4 banger.
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Old 06-20-2012, 01:23 PM   #383
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There is nothing in that article that mentions the system being used on the 2012 Focus.

I've been trying to find a definitive answer as to if the Focus DCT uses adaptive learning, but I have yet to find anything stating it as fact.
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Old 06-20-2012, 02:06 PM   #384
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If "No grinding is not normal", then grinding IS normal. As the Ford rep agrees with you it looks like my DCT is indeed abnormal. Or maybe it's just one of those comma things.
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There is nothing in that article that mentions the system being used on the 2012 Focus.

I've been trying to find a definitive answer as to if the Focus DCT uses adaptive learning, but I have yet to find anything stating it as fact.
Dealer service departments sure think it has adaptive learning. I was told when it was new and after 12B37 that a 1,000 mile "learning" period should be expected. One would think they would know.
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Old 06-20-2012, 02:30 PM   #386
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There is nothing in that article that mentions the system being used on the 2012 Focus.

I've been trying to find a definitive answer as to if the Focus DCT uses adaptive learning, but I have yet to find anything stating it as fact.
ATC applies to "conventional" automatics. For example, this is from a 2010 Mustang owner's manual:

This vehicle is equipped with an Adaptive Transmission Control Strategy.
This Adaptive Transmission Control Strategy offers the optimal transmission operation and shift quality.
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There is nothing in that article that mentions the system being used on the 2012 Focus.

I've been trying to find a definitive answer as to if the Focus DCT uses adaptive learning, but I have yet to find anything stating it as fact.
I know. But there's nothing that says it isn't. I personally don't know either way, just putting it out there.

Neomi or Thomas, can you find out for us from Ford engineering???
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Google "adaptive learning"
I did, but nothing linking without a doubt the Focus 2012 DCT to it.
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Again, "adaptive learning" usually doesn't mean learning the driver's habits, except for some high end cars like BMWs and Cadillacs. It means learning the transmission shift and clutch thresholds, and the DCT in the Focus DEFINITELY does this:

"NOTE: PLEASE ADVISE THE CUSTOMER THAT THIS VEHICLE IS EQUIPPED WITH AN ADAPTIVE TRANSMISSION SHIFT STRATEGY WHICH ALLOWS THE VEHICLE'S COMPUTER TO LEARN THE TRANSMISSION'S UNIQUE PARAMETERS AND IMPROVE SHIFT QUALITY"
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Again, "adaptive learning" usually doesn't mean learning the driver's habits, except for some high end cars like BMWs and Cadillacs. It means learning the transmission shift and clutch thresholds, and the DCT in the Focus DEFINITELY does this:

"NOTE: PLEASE ADVISE THE CUSTOMER THAT THIS VEHICLE IS EQUIPPED WITH AN ADAPTIVE TRANSMISSION SHIFT STRATEGY WHICH ALLOWS THE VEHICLE'S COMPUTER TO LEARN THE TRANSMISSION'S UNIQUE PARAMETERS AND IMPROVE SHIFT QUALITY"
Just got my car back from the dealer. I brought it back for shudder at low speed after getting my update three weeks ago. When i had the update done three weeks ago it was a nightmare the car shifted to soon also. Dealer road tested my car after i left it there and confirmed the shudder. They called Ford and ford told them to do the adaptive learning process . I couldnt believe they had to do it now because they did the update three weeks before and i am sure the ADP should have been done a the time of the 12B37 update. Ford also advised them to change the clutch if i had any more problems with it.
When i drove home the car drove better but it was only down the road . I will keep you posted.
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