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Old 06-07-2013, 12:09 PM   #51
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DANGEROUS loss of throttle control this morning.

First off....Overall I've been pretty happy with my '12 Focus over the last 10 months or so I've owned it. At just over 19,250 miles it's treated me well, gets great mileage, and isn't terribly boring to drive. Much more than expected when I traded in my Yukon for it. This morning though has spooked me, and unless the service department can tell me it won't happen again, it most likely won't make it through the weekend.

The condo complex I live in is on a busy section of a semi-divided road (Hurstbourne Lane near six-mile for those around Louisville). Speed limit is 45, and in the mornings is typically pretty tightly packed with traffic. Pulling out into traffic typically requires a healthy use of the throttle, and some good timing. This morning was nothing different, and I picked a slightly "tight" opening to pull out into. I ran the car through first gear, then as I shifted somewhat aggressively into second the car literally fell on its face. Throttle input was completely gone. I had no warning lights, no indication of anything wrong on the dash, but the engine returned to idle, and I had ZERO ability to go any faster than that. The nearest place to pull over was almost a mile down the road which I had to "limp" to at idle speed in 2nd gear (3rd gear at idle induced some significant lunging action). The large F-350 truck behind me when I pulled out was less than amused, and I'm somewhat surprised he didn't drive into my back seat.

Once in the parking lot the car idled smoothly, and consistently. If I gave it 100% throttle input it would rev VERY VERY slowly (a count to 20 was possible between idle and 5k rpm). It's almost as if it was pulling timing from the motor when I attempted to rev it. I had my bluetooth scan tool with me, and plugged it in. A quick scan showed no fault codes, and both the timing advance, and throttle input reporting as expected. 100% throttle input resulted in 100% reported, timing climbed with revs as expected as well.....It really feels like the traction control was "stuck on", or one of the coils wasn't firing, despite the smooth idle. I didn't think of the traction control at the time, and proceeded to pop the hood and check for obvious problems. I unplugged each coil individually, and noticed the engine stumble as expected, so the coils are OK, and each cylinder was receiving spark. it was obviously running so fuel was getting to the motor as well.

At this point I "gave up" and turned the car off and called my wife to see where she was and if she could come get me. As I'm talking I realize I'm somewhat in the middle of this parking lot, and should at least find my way to a legitimate parking space. I turned the key, and the car fired right back up as normal. As I went to move to another spot, it's as if there wasn't a single problem. It was running just fine again. I told the wife to never mind, and off to work I went. Zero problems on the way to work, and then again on my trip to lunch and back a few moments ago.

I'll be taking it in the dealership this weekend and having them look at it (time for an oil change as well). I've complained of this problem before (both here and to them), and was basically told by all parties involved that I shouldn't shift so fast, and that it was just the traction control protecting the car. That's all fine and good, however when the car decides I can no longer accelerate at all, that's not cool. This morning it was merging into relatively slow traffic. What happens when I have my 2yo son with me, and I'm trying to merge onto the interstate and this happens? What happens if the next time it decides it wants 100% throttle instead of 0%? If the dealership can't give me some insight as to what is going on, I'll be finding something else to drive immediately.

I'll keep everyone posted as I work through the issue.
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Old 06-07-2013, 12:18 PM   #52
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If you haven't yet and you fall within the build date I'd have this TSB applied.

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2.0L GDI AND MANUAL TRANSMISSION - CALIBRATION UPDATE - VARIOUS DRIVABILITY IMPROVEMENTS - BUILT ON OR BEFORE 2/29/2012

Publication Date: May 8, 2012

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This article supersedes TSB 12-1-4 to update the Title, Issue Statement and Service Procedure.

ISSUE:
Some 2012 Focus vehicles equipped with a 2.0L gasoline direct injection (GDI) engine, manual transmission and built on or before 2/29/2012 may exhibit diagnostic trouble codes (DTC) U0422, P00D2, P068A, P0850, P2610, P2832, P286F, P2877, P00C6, P0607, P0457 and/or P06B8 and may be accompanied by engine drivability concerns. Refer to the calibration content for additional calibration details.

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Follow the Service Procedure steps to correct the condition.

SERVICE PROCEDURE

Reprogram the powertrain control module (PCM) to the latest calibration using IDS release 78.02 and higher. This new calibration is not included in the VCM 2012.3 DVD. Calibration files may also be obtained at www.motorcraft.com.
Reset the Oil Minder, refer to Workshop Manual (WSM), Section 413-01.
Previously Released Calibration Content

Previously released calibration content contained improvement actions and enhancements to address the following on vehicles equipped with a manual transmission:

Intermittent vehicle speed control inoperative.
Engine no-start with engine coolant temperature (ECT) open circuit faults.
Intermittent no-crank/no-start condition after performing normal Powertrain Control/Emissions Diagnosis (PC/ED) pinpoint test (PPT) procedures.
Intermittent false initialization to 21 C (70 F) on the instrument cluster's ambient temperature display upon engine start up.
A/C performance at idle and high engine coolant temperature readings in cold ambient temperatures below 0 C (32 F) on vehicles equipped with automatic grill shutters (AGS).
Oil change minder not lighting up in instrument panel cluster (IPC) when vehicle surpasses 10,000 miles.
Difficulty launching from a stop when not using the accelerator pedal.
Low speed tip-in/tip-out shuffle in 1st, 2nd and reverse gears
NOTE: PLEASE ADVISE THE CUSTOMER THE VEHICLE'S OIL MINDER HAS BEEN RESET AND TO FOLLOW THE RECOMMENDED OIL CHANGE INTERVAL AS DESCRIBED IN THE OWNERS MANUAL.





WARRANTY STATUS:
Eligible Under Provisions Of New Vehicle Limited Warranty Coverage And Emissions Warranty Coverage
IMPORTANT: Warranty/ESP coverage limits/policies/prior approvals are not altered by a TSB. Warranty/ESP coverage limits are determined by the identified causal part and verified using the OASIS part coverage tool.

OPERATION DESCRIPTION TIME
120505A 2012 Focus 2.0L GDI And Manual Transmission: Check DTCs And Reprogram The PCM, Includes Time To Reset The Oil Change Minder (Do Not Use With Any Other Labor Operations) 0.4 Hr.

DEALER CODING
BASIC PART NO. CONDITION CODE
RECALEM 04
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Old 06-07-2013, 12:29 PM   #53
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I found that in a quick search here.

Sadly my build date is 6/27/12......

Would've been nice to think there was an "easy" solution to it. Maybe there still is. I like the car more than I expected to, and hope there is a resolution to this.
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If you have a good service department you could probably easily push them to do this, especially if you have all the above information with you. It wouldn't hurt to try. Good luck!
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Tell them to pull the freeze frame data and call the service hotline. You appear to have an electronic throttle issue. It may be pedal related. The freeze frame should point in the right direction.
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@2kwik4u

I had the same problem recently on my '12. http://www.focusfanatics.com/forum/showthread.php?t=318145

It was suggested that it might have been an error in the car and it triggered a sort of "limp home mode" thinking there was a major engine issue. It was attempting to protect the engine.

This TSB is news to me though... I think I'll go to Ford and have them pull codes and apply this TSB.

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I had the same problem recently on my '12. http://www.focusfanatics.com/forum/showthread.php?t=318145

It was suggested that it might have been an error in the car and it triggered a sort of "limp home mode" thinking there was a major engine issue. It was attempting to protect the engine.

This TSB is news to me though... I think I'll go to Ford and have them pull codes and apply this TSB.

Thanks @BetaDnB
Thanks for the link. Looks like we have very similar problems, as well as similar suspicion about a spark/timing issue.

I don't think that a coolant temp triggered my issue either. The OBD2 data was showing 190-ish degrees when I got the scan tool hooked up. I've seen it as high as 221 in top-go traffic (with 98* ambient) last August right after I bought it.

I have suspicion that it is within the traction control programming. As I get the same results for a split second or two every now and then on very aggressive 1-2 shifts where I get some wheel spin. No wheel spin this morning, but same results with the exception of it took a "reboot" to clear the issue instead of the typical 5-10 second delay to restore power.
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Same thing - this was more extreme than my traction control has ever been (also an aggressive driver here). I usually turn it off these days though

Restart the car - no problems.
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Tell them to pull the freeze frame data and call the service hotline. You appear to have an electronic throttle issue. It may be pedal related. The freeze frame should point in the right direction.
No MIL and no DTC codes = no freeze frame data.
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Freeze frame data is NOT MIL codes. It is in a totally different region of the memory. You cannot access it, but the dealer can.
The data will probably not make sense to him, but the hotline should be able to get some help from the calibrators in Dearborn. If it sounds like I know what I am talking about, that's because that phone call will probably end up in the building I spend 8+ hrs a day in...
Tell the dealer your issue and make sure you indicate the freeze frame needs to be forwarded to the hotline.
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