Took my 2012 Fofo to Willow Springs Extreme Speed Track event

[4d4jacklee]

If you don't have a helmet you can rent one from extreme speed.

The rules are pretty simple, register and pay, a helmet, fill out a car self tech form, and sign a waiver. Here's there website: www.extremespeedtrackevents.com

I have to say, it's a touch rough on the car, but it sure is fun!

[Evans Precision]

"I have to say, it's a touch rough on the car, but it sure is fun!"

what you mean^?

thank you.

- Derek

[ViperThreat]

^ He means that its hard on your car. Im sure that I took easily 10,000 miles off the life of my car last time i went. Keeping the revs up, tires screaming, etc.. Its not exacly something you want to do to your car every day.

[4d4jacklee]

Like ViperThreat says, you're either accelerating, braking, shifting, or pushing through a turn as fast as you can go. It's definitely a strain on the drive-train,, suspension, brakes and tires, especially the front tires!

[Evans Precision]

thank you thats intense
i am next!!!

[Tyler T]

jacklee - were you out at Auto Club Speedway this weekend? I saw a gray Mk3 on track.

[4d4jacklee]

Hi Tyler T- No, that wasn't me. I probably won't go out again until I can do something performance wise to the car. I'd like to go back to Horse-thief mile again. It's such a tight track, that I think a good handling car has a better chance against cars with more power.

[jem0473]

Awesome, glad to hear you had a good time! Some of the locals will be out there March 24 and April 15 for the track events with ES.

[4d4jacklee]

Thanks, it was a gas. I'm working towards a wheel, tire and suspension upgrade, and hopefully push up a little higher in the finishing order!

[Eurofordfan]

Jack, you probably need to reduce the understeer a bit. I'll bet the ESC is playing a role... and that more rear roll stiffness will be counteracted by the ESC.

I have learned that I can (temporarily) disable the three systems -- ESC, TCS, and ABS (but keep the electronic brake force distribution intact.... i.e. the rear wheel brake proportioning) if I cause just the ABS logic module to fault. That means that I would turn the car, on a switched-in and switched-off basis -- to a car without ABS, TCS or ESC... but with proper rear wheel brake proportioning. I suspect that this would be OK, for the ocasional DE day / track event.

The four individual wheel ABS sensors / tone rings have to remain operable, and the two (?) Hydraulic Control Unit (HCU) solenoids have to remain functional. But the ABS logic module has to fault.

I suspect that I could have the Printed Circuit Board (if this is easily accessible?) modified, so that I can introduce a break in one or several printed circuit tracks...and lead that same break... out of the unit in the form of insulated wires, to a switch (that is made electronically clean, using some kind of voltage spike quelling circuitry... a capacitor or??).

This would constitute a systems on or systems off switch.

Then, I could add-in the amount of front versus back roll stiffness that I desired... and thusly could tune the suspension... without the ESC system intervening. Remember, if the ESC intervenes, it can leave you with a momentary loss of power...

As well, the TCS would be my right foot... not the electronic nanny.

Ideas, anybody? ... but please, please ABS zealots need not preach on the ills of not having ABS under these circumstances... What did people do before ABS was invented? Would those strong ABS advocates NOT buy a classic car (without ABS)? I, for one, would never buy a new or newish car without ABS... but as for TCS and ESC that is not cancellable... I have a problem!