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Old 02-06-2012, 10:12 PM   #11
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Yup thats coolant all right. My girlfriends V-dub looked like this a while ago, headgasket was the culprit. That really bites man, this SHOULD NOT happen on such a new car. Beg and plead for a prototype ST to use while this is getting repaired.
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Old 02-10-2012, 08:23 PM   #12
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The short story is that my Ford dealer says this is normal, and they can't/won't do anything about it. Arguing didn't accomplish anything other than making me more mad. I'll be seeking a second opinion from another dealer at my next opportunity.
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The short story is that my Ford dealer says this is normal, and they can't/won't do anything about it. Arguing didn't accomplish anything other than making me more mad. I'll be seeking a second opinion from another dealer at my next opportunity.
ANY contaminates in the coolant isn't 'normal'. contact Ford services about it and explain your dealers position. That is not correct by any standards. even if it is contaminates from mfg, it needs to be cleaned out, flushed and filled with non contaminated antifreeze. Good idea to seek another dealerships opinion. Good luck.
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I don't think I've ever owned a vehicle that didn't have some crap on the bottom of the coolant cap and/or accumulating at or near the fluid level. You have to realize that as the coolant gets hot, contaminants boil off and accumulate at the highest point in the system. With a new engine, this could be a number of things, assembly lube etc. The fact that its in the tank means its no longer necessarily circulating through the engine. Even if it was, its just mostly coolant with a little oily stuff.
Having said all this, I am not saying there isn't a problem. Just that I wouldn't be too concerned.
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Wow that is utter BS. Trust me when I say that is NOT NORMAL. I would definitely contact Ford itself about this; your dealership is stiffing you to save a few dollars. Also, if you want as I don't believe it would void anything, pull the spark plugs out and see if any of that gunk is on the plugs. If it is you most definitely have a problem. Even if there isn't, that is still not normal at all. As others have said the coolant lines are a closed system and nothing should be getting into it. Good luck at another dealer, but seriously, contact Ford about this; if they're pulling this stuff on you, you can bet on it that they are doing this to someone else. I feel bad for anyone who was denied service by your dealership, only to have something worse happen down the road.

Also, I've said this before but I'll say it again. I find that dealerships that advertise heavily, and with prices lower than anyone else tend to be garbage. (The "We will beat anybody's prices" kind of place)They have to save money somehow in that equation and more often than not it's in their service department. This of course may not be the case with your dealership, but I figured I'd put it out there.

As to what got3fords said. My Focus did not do that and I've had the car for 7000 miles now; and you can be sure if this was a frequent occurrence and thus "normal" someone else here would have already freaked out about it by now.
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As to what got3fords said. My Focus did not do that and I've had the car for 7000 miles now; and you can be sure if this was a frequent occurrence and thus "normal" someone else here would have already freaked out about it by now.
I'd be surprised that your coolant tank is completely crap free! Hell, if I go out and check mine, I'd be surprised too, albeit happy. But I am not going to get bent out of shape over a little sludge/crap. I doubt you can possibly assemble an engine with absolutely no oil, gasket sealant, residue or assembly lube in the cooling system. Then its going to boil off and accumulate at the highest point. Complete BS? Get real!
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I'd be surprised that your coolant tank is completely crap free! Hell, if I go out and check mine, I'd be surprised too, albeit happy. But I am not going to get bent out of shape over a little sludge/crap. I doubt you can possibly assemble an engine with absolutely no oil, gasket sealant, residue or assembly lube in the cooling system. Then its going to boil off and accumulate at the highest point. Complete BS? Get real!
My car is older than his and my coolant looks like its new, with zero gunk on the cap or visible in the tank
I guess he took the pics down before you could see them, it was nasty
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My car is older than his and my coolant looks like its new, with zero gunk on the cap or visible in the tank
I guess he took the pics down before you could see them, it was nasty
No gunk in my TWO either, nor was there in my 2001 ranger I traded. (never got it flushed either) nor in my TWO 67 galaxie's. There may not be anything wrong with the motor or gaskets but there IS something wrong with the fluid. At the least it wasn't flushed properly at the factory to remove assembly lubes and contaminates. That warrants a flush, not a shrug from the Dealership.

My girlfriend car DID have that in her old car and that is one reason we traded it in for the Focus.
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My car is older than his and my coolant looks like its new, with zero gunk on the cap or visible in the tank
I guess he took the pics down before you could see them, it was nasty
I think something happened to my pics, should be fixed now.
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Now that I have more time I'll give you guys the long explanation:

The dealer agreed on the phone that my description of what I was seeing did not sound normal. After looking at it in person the dealer called me and told me it does look normal. I asked what his definition "normal" is, and he explained that they looked at some 2012 Foci on their lot and one of them has some gunk like mine in the coolant tank. That particular car has a few thousand miles on it (mine has about 6,000). So they determined that it must be something that happens after the car breaks in. I said that I want that crud flushed out anyway, regardless of whether he thinks it's normal. To which he responded, "That's just a waste of your money; that stuff on the tank can't be removed without scrubbing it off with a brush. We're not authorized to do that, so you'll have to do that yourself."

I'm sending an inquiry to Ford corporate right now.
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